[Lloyd Gillespie]

Link: http://www.citebase.org/fulltext?for...-mat%2F0201235

Geometric Foundation of Thermo-Statistics,
Phase Transitions, Second Law of Thermodynamics,
but without Thermodynamic Limit

D.H.E. Gross
Berlin, Bereich Theoretische Physik,Glienickerstr.100
14109 Berlin, Germany and Freie Universit¨at Berlin, Fachbereich Physik.
E-mail: gross@hmi.de
August 8, 2006

[Lloyd Gillespie]

How many Big bangs? - Today, 01:28 AM



Quote:
Originally Posted by dipayankar
However any idea what could have caused the Big Bang???[{First, this is all my own theory and facts, that I can substantiate with mathematical reasoning and a thorough going logic of the entire universe's cycle...} It had to explode, or we'd have no light. The other causes are below.] What would have been the matter / Energy in the singularity??[Most likely, the quantumization of linear motioned hydrogen/helium/hydrozing condensates of trillions of trillions of years of the fundamental thermal matter space storms and resulting radiation heat.] And why did it explode???[Light{low velocity} thermal motion implosions, creating extreme{high velocity} thermal motion compressions, creating first small storms and hurricanes, then giant storms, hurricanes and tornados, ever increasing in size and pressures toward a center. Rotations meet and change directions on opposing axis when turning the same or opposite directions, so extreme heat from all initial and final motion would have been concentrated in centri-petal, centrifical, centrifugal and centrifusal forces, forming em waves, gravity waves, super-gravity, etc. When these combinations of motion forces reached high enough velocities, [what we call relative velocities], actually thermal radiation stage of molecular motion into entropy stages of mass, where it must radiate its mass to increase in velocity, and thus the collapse stage 1 of a true building Black Hole singularity. Further stages of collapse would have continued for trillions of years, quantumizing enough fundamental matter, out of initial linear matter motion, only, to build the early universe. IMO, stars continue the process of quantumization of matter to this day.]

What caused the matter / energy to come into a singularity??[Thermo-hydro-dynamic space storms of matter/motions/energies] Why did it 'explode'??[The same reason some stars still explode. Remember this was the first___one had to explode to creat any light at all, in the universe. It's just scientifically required, or we wouldn't be here and able to see light. The other reason is compression, just like a diesel engine.] What was the matter / energy that formed the sigularity??[That answer is found by seeing total finiteness as a single atom. Let it decay out to 10^137 Hawking years, and you have to have fundamental matter. It's required to eternally exist, by the very first law of thermodynamics, which LaPlace of France, proved in the 1700's___matter and energy can never be destroyed, only converted one to the other.] Was it some earlier version of any space time???[IMO, space-time is Einstein's metaphysical idea, it's not the reality. Space, yes. Time is mans concept layed on the motion of space matter. I only accept Newtons absolute space. It's the only way to escape the std. model's foolishness of coming from either a point or nothing. Einstein was a great physicist. He was a lousy metaphysicist. His physics and math are correct, but when he tried to figure out his own thoughts of the giant ideas, he failed miserably, and we've been locked in his false metaphysics, for over a century.]

True science would tell us it did not come from a point or nothing as the std. model and many quantum models accept. The singularity formed from the fundamental thermal matter motions of infinite eternal uncreated linear space. The way to know this must be true is to realize the existing universe, being perpetual motion, needs a source of finance for its matter/motions. This requires the infinite source of a prime mover, which is a simple uncaused cause. There's only one in the scientific arsenal___thermodynamics and the hydrodynamics of. Since we scientifically know we can't have motion or energy without something to move, a fundamental substance is absolutely required___thus absolute matter, which in turn requires an infinite space to exist in, since finite motion requires an external prime mover for its perpetualness, and thermodynamics being such a weak motioner, the infinite thermal matter motion space theory of matter/energy, before the big-bang is absolutely required. How did it work? It was, IMO, just the most gigantic weather system ever possible to imagine, and all heat radiation created by early motions would have been pushed to a virtual/eventually real center, for trillions of trillions of years, also heating and increasing the fundamental substance size. IMO, somewhere say 10^20 years before the final building of the hydrogen/helium/hydrozine highly compressed mass black gaseous/plasma ball, where quantumization was initiated, it would have started quantum tunneling out into infinite space, before the real explosion. As it exploded into a pre-quantumized finite space, it would have created the vacuum of space, as all explosions create vacuums at their centers. The tremendous violence of this explosion would almost be like imagining infinity itself exploding, even though it was only a small piece of infinity's center. Space storms of massive size would have existed before the final stages, leading to quantum spray, such as quasars, but nothing in intensity after the unimaginable forces of such an explosion. Hurricane and tornado force winds at near the speed of light, much higher then, due to lower mass density of the aether, in all directions, since such violent heat was exploding into virgin 0K. If you've ever seen and heard super-heated steam hitting freezing water, you'd have some idea what the violence would have been. Tornados and hurricans, before and after explosion are what, IMO, shaped the galaxies motions, cmbr and all space curvatures since. Smaller black holes would have been formed from the initial Black Hole , especially at the wall of the thunder head front, shooting black holes and initial galaxie forming matter in every direction, out and back in, in 360 degrees. This is why we still witness the Hubble speeds of planets at distance, which are really the burned out memories of super-light stars and super-light initial galaxies. Galaxie evolution would have progressed to produce the heavier stars and galaxies of today.

Hope this helps,
LLoyd

p.s.
A final note; The infinite eternal cold thermal is absolutely required to exist to continue the cooling equilibrium of the hot finite space matter motions described above. There is no other source of cold except the infinite linear field, the hot quantumized aether field exists in. The finite universe would have experienced heat death long ago, without the required infinite cold linear field permeating all of finiteness's hot quantum field.

[Lloyd Gillespie]

Quote:
Originally Posted by dleviwing
The Toronic concept started by viewing all terminologies of “energy” as being nothing more the action or interaction of physical substance in motion.[Absolutely true] Eventually this lead to realizing that to conserve mass and energy, motion must be conserved and yet if motion could be exchanged, then potential energy could not exist.[Ah...I have to say, false.] The result was to make an assumption that motion was a property that could not be exchanged nor could it be altered in its total quantity within any system. This lead to the comprehension that mass was also a function of motion and thus the concept of uniform motion as being the cause of mass resulted.

David, would you like to continue trying to sort out our differences? I think we should, since the meta-heads are trying to dominate the forum, most likely due to our disagreements about fundamental substance motions. May I point out above, that you are making an assumption of an assumption, thus creating our different views of motion. You are defining motion as a property, when in fact it's only our "I" cognition of universal events. Motion is not a fundametal property, it is the fundamental result of thermalizing substance. Herein lies the fundamental problem with your above statement about motion being a property that could not be exchanged, nor could it be altered in its total quantity within any system, which is a false interpretation of substance's thermodynamics. We cognize substance moving, but the fundamental is thermal___the result is motion___action/reation. Motion is not any such fundamental property___it is clearly a secondary function/reaction of the thermodynamics/action of absolute fundamental substance. When you see this fact, you will see that it's not motion being exchanged, but substance temperatures only, that actually produces and exchange all absolute infinite substance motions___so it's temperature variances that are actually the exchanging principles of the laws of thermodynamics, and motion is no more than another of physics' metaphysical alligators, the same as time___improperly metaphysically interpreted. Temperature produces all prime motion, motion initially produces absolutely nothing, it's a boogey-man that doesn't exist___in the absolute, except as a secondary of our cognition, and thermodynamics. When you understand this, you actually understand how the universe truly works. This allows absolute fundamental thermal substance to be infinite, and fill the infinite space/void, without running afoul of the entire symmetry of the laws of physics. Temperature allows the absolute fundamental substance to set up the real quantum wall between the fundamental universal ground state, and the quantum ground state___the first thinner density linear substance temperature, can not overcome the second more dense quantumized substance temperatures, thus allowing the thermal balance of all universal therms, what you have mis-construed/assumed/conjectured as fundamental motion___when in fact, it is a secondary reaction___to fundamental thermdynamics___the uncreated self-creator of all universal actions___the prime mover...

Thermodynamics of any system is, as I'm sure you are aware of, equivalent to the total kinetic energy of the same system___the equivalence principle of total kinetic energy and total thermodynamic temperature. I hope the above has shown why your thinking has used an unnecessary assumption, that actually invalidates your absolute motion, as an impossibility, as explained by you. Yes, absolute motion exists, as the overall motion of the total infinite universal system of thermal substance, true enough, but is in no way, the prime mover___thermo-hydro-dynamics[temperature] alone, is the prime mover. We cognizantly illusion motion into the prime mover, when it is truly the outcome/reaction, just as is time. Mass is the third process of the initial substance therms, as the secondary force of thermal motion advances toward its real substance singularity, heated in size and power, through thermodynamic compression, as it proceeded toward the universe's highest entropy ever to have happened___real substance hot big bang. Temperature can only exist in two states; toward hot and toward cold___both produce absolute motion, all the way into the infinite void___unless you believe in nothing's void possibility...

"Nothing can be created from nothing." Early Greek ?

Regards,
Lloyd