[Guille]

Originally Posted by SimpleKid18 Are you completely mad boy??? GUILLE- Have I ever said what the TOE will or won't predict? NO. I've said that it won't be able to predict absolutelly everything, just like it won't explain absolutelly everything. Try reading Descartes or some English empiricists. Your the one being contradictory. The fact is that no-one knows, not me or you. We just have ideas.

Sorry, I forgot to add Wittgenstein's tractatus to the list, so that you learn a bit of logical analyzation of language. There is a big difference between being able to do something, or ability to do, and to do something, to do.

[Mr. Nobody]

Goedel might agree with the unsolvability of a final TOE.
In order to prove completeness within the contained system (Universe), one has to go outside said system (Universe).

[Mr. Nobody]

which means, if multiverses exist, than theoretically we can solve the TOE for one universe, only to yearn for a comprehensive TOE including all multiverses. We will always be a step behind it seems

[pbecke]

It seems apparent that Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principleis the primordial manifestation at the microscopic level of the space-time continuum at the macroscopic level. What do you think? I mean it was bound to manifest at some point on the microscopic level, wasn't it. (Sorry about the moose. I posted this somewhere else).

[dleviwing]

Paul;
Actually I thought it to be more BULL than MOOSE at the space-time continuum level.

BTW, Welcome to ToeQuest.

[pbecke]

Thank you, David!

I don't quite follow you on that, matey, but you could be onto something with the Bull... if it's a polite abbreviation!

[mkirkpatrick]

The TOE can be solved,just fast forward to the consciounness holds the key
to the toe thread,and all will be revealed,thats a promise,honest injun?


kind regards michael.

[nelium]

The T.O.E. will be solved, just as most ALL problems that mankind has pondered have been. Unfortunately, even though being a plan/blueprint/calculation to derive the given state of anything, until full observational methods are obtained, it will not predict anything but the largest/obvious outcomes of a particular system. Probability is only used to disguise our current inability to comprehend/observe the infinitesimally small.

Paradoxes may truly develop in our world if we ever fully obtain a method to FULLY "see" the subatomic ... well, if.


Thanks.

[michellemfry]

Do unto others as you would have done unto you.
If you are a universe, do unto others, if you find one, besides you.
If you are a galaxy, do unto others as you would have done unto you.
The thing is generating itself and getting exactly what it could communicate to the others.

[pbecke]

I think the big problems have been solved, but the world is caught in a time warp created by extraordinarily die-hard reductionist "scientismificists", who have even bamboozled scientists with a capacity for discursive thought, philosophers and theologians.

It might not have been possible without the enthusiastic support of big government and big business, who thrive on "scientists have found...", i.e. whatever they want to put across.

Mike and others have drawn the rational conclusion that mind is the key player in all of this, and isn't that precisely the implication of the pivotal role of the observer in Relativity and Heisinger's U P?

Yet, nobody, it seems, either a philospopher, a theologian or a theoretcal physicist has said, "Right! Enough's enough! Let's stop pretending that when we have deduced something with ineluctable certainty, by nothing less than a priori reasoning based on mathematical computations, if doesn't fit our the reductionist mindset, or seems completely alien to what be consider to be even the outermost boundaries of our empirical science.... it does not exist! Let us admit openly that putting across empirical science as the ultimate paradigm of human knowledge and understanding is a pretentious, nay risible scam. We have been acting like halfwits, in deference to our endemically cretinous brethren, besotted with the notion of their being the high priests of all knowledge. Man, not the physical world, is king. Period!"