singularities don't have fish nets to pull

[Mohan.C]

Hello there,

what i am telling here is that singularity do not exert gravitational pull on the objects. Let me make it clear We all know that nothing escapes a black hole. But how can the Gravitational waves on the space time fabric caused due to the disturbanse of space come across the barrier of the event horizon and affect objects. So the objects are not affected by the singularity rather they are caught unawares when they fall into the event
horizon.

Any comments,

Mohan,

[Guille]

Singularities themselves don't have any mass. But they are the maximum point of gravitational curvature. I don't know what you mean in your post then.

[mkirkpatrick]

Singularities are non-dimenional points, and are not a place and are infact out of time and space!!

kindregards michael.

[Mohan.C]

Singularities themselves odn't have any mass. But they are the maximum point of gravitational curvature. I don't know what you mean in your post then.

Ok so as you say if singularities are the maximum point of gravitational curvature. Then time must be constant as well as the entropy. Well what i mean in the post is that the gravitational pull of the collapsing star is always inside the event horizon so any events occuring inside the event horizon will not affect what happens outside. Since we say gravity is also an event then how can it affect a space ship revolving the star. Singularities dont have mass i agree but instead it has enegy. in one of ur threads I have said wat I believe is that energy is the elementary. so still singularities must have an intrinsic energy.

Well this is my doubt-Can we say singularities are like an one way isolated systems. They take in but dont give anything out??

Singularities are non-dimenional points,and are not a place
and are infact out of timeand space!!

kindregards michael.

Sorry Michael i dont get the point if we say singularities are out of space and time why do we say it exists.

[Mohan.C]

Well one more point. If singularities have very large energy then doesn't all the forces become same. Some GUE is there isn't it. why can't it be so.

[mkirkpatrick]

Mohan, a little late in replying to this one, so sorry my friend, I just found it tonight, staring at me?Singularities are indeed points, but they are points, where all the laws of this physical universe, seem to loose cohesion, and "appear" to break down, I say appear for that might not really be the case? The singularity "exists" in what I would call the "border land"betwixt and between this universe, and its opposite, as some would call anti-matter, as you no doubt know Mohan,science or more aptly physics,seem to think of the singularity as a theoretical concept to explain the disappearance of all that matter being sucked into a black hole? Some of course do think of them as real,as indeed I do.So because of its exotic nature,and its location in the borderland,it is excused from this side of being influenced by "our laws"

kindest regards michael.

[Guille]

Well this is my doubt-Can we say singularities are like an one way isolated systems. They take in but dont give anything out??

Sorry for the very very late reply I forgot about this thread. I think singularities are isolated systems. I think, therefore I am. But that doesn't mean that I am right. To know, not to think, shows that I am right. Look it up at wikipedia it may come if you read the apropiate article.

[Lloyd Gillespie]

What about the void's absolute thermodynamic singularity??? The absolute lack of wave/matter heat???[plasma field, i.e., wave/matter field is estimated to be between 1000 and 2000 degrees F. in present space] Think of the absolute void before this temp. increase??? Infinite cold???[far beyond zero Kelvin] Pressure___unknown??? i.e., intrinsic energy??? Yes!!!

regards

Ok so as you say if singularities are the maximum point of gravitational curvature. Then time must be constant as well as the entropy. Well what i mean in the post is that the gravitational pull of the collapsing star is always inside the event horizon so any events occuring inside the event horizon will not affect what happens outside. Since we say gravity is also an event then how can it affect a space ship revolving the star. Singularities dont have mass i agree but instead it has enegy. in one of ur threads I have said wat I believe is that energy is the elementary. so still singularities must have an intrinsic energy.

Well this is my doubt-Can we say singularities are like an one way isolated systems. They take in but dont give anything out??

[KAC]

Alright so this is going to sound odd. Perhaps even like a strange claim but still here it is.

In a casimir vacuum light can have a velocity higher than 299792458 m/s. However, this light would of course be tachyonic in condition, so would be to us, lower frames, unobservable.

I believe Blackholes are not infact gate's to the next universe over, but rather something more like a phase shift up to a higher inertial reference frame, in which the velocity of light due to vacuum conditions, would be higher and therefore not visible to our reference frame.

I wonder, what is the vacuum of a blackhole like? Not from outside, but from inside.

I think of it like warp drive and subspace.

[JCarmignani]

If black holes are real isolated systems, then what about Hawkings mass loss radiation and black hole's internal magnetic field?