[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by subversion Nothing does not necessarely contain anything, including itself. It might be able to contain things which do not necessarely contain themselves, because these things do not necessarely exist. Some would say this is just my theory, but I would say it seems fairly obvious. Then again, it all depends on your definition. cheers

If you worked hard for me all day Sub,and I gave you a big fat
nothing for it,would you show me how grateful you were and accept it grace
fully?Or would you say i want paying in buckeroos,so hand them over!


kind regards michael.

[dleviwing]

Originally Posted by thomas cuny There is benefit in reading about many not very good ideas. There may be some good points along with the bad. Trying to decide if an idea is good or bad improves one's understanding.

I could not agree with you more Thomas.
Also translating the language of the scientist is one problem and translating the meaning of the numbers is another. I have not read any of Lisa Randall's books but since I agree with your evaluation of the other authors, you are probably right about her also.

[Mohan.C]

Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick If you worked hard for me all day Sub,and I gave you a big fat nothing for it,would you show me how grateful you were and accept it grace fully?Or would you say i want paying in buckeroos,so hand them over! kind regards michael.

That's where you are wrong Michael,
Whatever we do we should not expect a reward from it. We must do it with a sense of we are part of a whole. That's where nothing comes. You expect nothing but you do get something. That's the beauty of it.

[mkirkpatrick]

You are of course absolutely right Mohan, as regard the universal laws of cause and effect. However you are absolutely wrong in the context that I jokingly sent to Sub, I said that if he worked hard for me for the day, he would expect some payment, rightly so! When you eventually have to find gainful employment my friend,and have a family to support, I think you will EXpect something at the end of the week, I think if all you recieved was a thankyou, that would not fill the bellies ofthe family,know what I mean?

kind regards michael.

[Mohan.C]

Now finally I have come to a conclusion that universe does not have a centre or need not have a centre You will see my reasons in about a week.

[dipayankar]

Dear Mohan... would be expecting your analysis... however if the Universe has a geometric shape, then it definitely should have a center as well..

Originally Posted by Mohan.C Now finally I have come to a conclusion that universe does not have a centre or need not have a centre You will see my reasons in about a week.

[Mohan.C]

That is exactly what has put me in a dillema

[dipayankar]

My personal perception is that the Universe does have a centre. Its just that we have not been able to locate it.

Originally Posted by Mohan.C That is exactly what has put me in a dilemma

[Mohan.C]

No, I have an idea that the universe doesnot have a centre. but it is centred atleast over two points. No, not like the focus of an ellipse or hyperbola. Something different.

[dipayankar]

Do you by any chance mean to say that probably there are two Universes mingling together??

Originally Posted by Mohan.C No, I have an idea that the universe doesnot have a centre. but it is centred atleast over two points. No, not like the focus of an ellipse or hyperbola. Something different.