Re: does universe have a centre -
01-22-2008, 12:08 PM
"It is also noteworthy, until further notice, that neither of these two extreme conditions have been attained in experimental physics. That is to say, cyclotron speeds approach but do not equal that of light, and cryogenic experiments (Bose-Einstein condensations; etc) approach but do not equal that of Absolute Zero. Opposite ends of the motion spectrum establish 'timelessness' (cessation of all motion): established by maximum motion and zero motion."
I would only add to John's thought-provoking posting that ZPE is suggestive of a merge of the x-y-z axes, eventhough existing at both ends of the energy spectrum, and this would apply as well to the scenario you proffer, RP, as a basis for dimensional extensions - inclusive of space, not only time/motion.
When you say, "Timelessness is also said to result if and when any physical entity moves at the speed of light..." it implies to me that light is not a physical entity. Perhaps then if light is the absolute non-physical attainment/confinement of the above-noted maximum speed, gravity is the absolute non-physical attainment/refinement of the above-noted minimum speed.
Re: does universe have a centre -
01-22-2008, 06:43 PM
Rascal
Quote:
"Where does all this rocky material come from in the first place is what I always ask." - Rufus
The abandoned - tentatively returning - Steady State theory proffers the same question, Rufus. It seems that the human mind demands a beginning and ending to everything and imposes that demand on the existential universe. Hence, the 'big bang' and 'big rip' suppositions.
The Steady State maintains there's no beginning or end, and that all the rocky material didn't come out of nowhere, but has always been here...
*SteadyState: no 'bang', no 'crunch', no 'rip'. *
Rascal Rascal Rascal
That is just stupid Where did all this matter come from??
It's always been there!!
Where??
Where did it come from??
It's always been there!!
Where>??
Where did the where come from????
You need a beginning for both the place and the material
A theory about the beginning that begins with both a place and some material is not a theory!!
Re: does universe have a centre -
01-22-2008, 08:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rufus
Rascal
Rascal Rascal Rascal
That is just stupid Where did all this matter come from??
It's always been there!!
Where??
Where did it come from??
It's always been there!!
Where>??
Where did the where come from????
You need a beginning for both the place and the material
A theory about the beginning that begins with both a place and some material is not a theory!!
Shake you head
Sorry about this.. I'm freaking out again
Rufe
Indeed.
- RP
(George Berkeley, 1710) ... lay the beginning in a distinct explication of what is meant by thing, reality, existence: for in vain shall we dispute concerning the real existence of things, or pretend to any knowledge thereof, so long as we have not fixed the meaning of those words.
"All things come out of the one and the one out of all things." - Heraclitus "Reality is an illusion - albeit a persistent one." - Einstein "Particles give me a headache." - Ibid
Re: does universe have a centre -
01-22-2008, 09:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick
How can all be centered,really!
regards michael.
Hey Michael:
Simply responding to Rufus' preceding post - his closure...
"Sorry about this.. I'm freaking out again.
Rufe".
Verily.
- RP
Post script: Word is, the universe has as many centers as observers. What do you think of this thread's thematic question, Michael?
(George Berkeley, 1710) ... lay the beginning in a distinct explication of what is meant by thing, reality, existence: for in vain shall we dispute concerning the real existence of things, or pretend to any knowledge thereof, so long as we have not fixed the meaning of those words.
"All things come out of the one and the one out of all things." - Heraclitus "Reality is an illusion - albeit a persistent one." - Einstein "Particles give me a headache." - Ibid
Re: does universe have a centre -
01-23-2008, 04:11 AM
Rufus is hurling freaked out aspersions from off his center.
Can anyone help find his way back home?
Michael? Can you chart Rufus' pituatary for him?
- RP
(George Berkeley, 1710) ... lay the beginning in a distinct explication of what is meant by thing, reality, existence: for in vain shall we dispute concerning the real existence of things, or pretend to any knowledge thereof, so long as we have not fixed the meaning of those words.
"All things come out of the one and the one out of all things." - Heraclitus "Reality is an illusion - albeit a persistent one." - Einstein "Particles give me a headache." - Ibid
Re: does universe have a centre -
01-23-2008, 08:57 AM
For a while stop thinking as a human who knows only a begining and an end. Even the matter that you are made of is recycled. It never had a begining.. only recycled...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rufus
Rascal
Rascal Rascal Rascal
That is just stupid Where did all this matter come from??
It's always been there!!
Where??
Where did it come from??
It's always been there!!
Where>??
Where did the where come from????
You need a beginning for both the place and the material
A theory about the beginning that begins with both a place and some material is not a theory!!
Re: does universe have a centre -
01-22-2008, 08:41 PM
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