[AntonioLao]

Here, ‘hard’ means time consuming, while ‘easy’ means no time at all. A good down-to-earth example of nature’s adherence to this universal principle is the phenomenon of lightning. It might seem unbelievable that about 100 strikes occur every second around the globe. These electrical discharges only took a fraction of a second to release the built-up electrical energy from extremely high potential differences. However, several days were needed to accumulate the static electric charges within cloud formations, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightning. Nonetheless, if one follows the threadlike filamentary path one realizes that it is not a straight line but rather more like fractal branching. And indeed lightning conforms to fractal geometry of chaos theory. A celestial example would be that of the birth of a star, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_formation. Star formations take billions of years yet a supernova takes a few days see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supernova.

From a human perspective, this universal principle is signified by the pain and tribulation of years of living while death comes in an instant of abrupt separation. A failed marriage takes years or a few months to develop but it takes only less than a minute to sign the divorce’s paper for its dissolution. It takes years for engineers to plan, design, and construct structures such as bridges, roads, and buildings. However, demolition experts take less than a day to completely wipe them off the face of the earth. It takes years, or even centuries to achieve world’s political balance but the world disequilibrium is boasted by terrorists within one fateful morning of September 11, 2001. It is very hard to build but very easy to destroy. It took over an hour to type this text but erasing it just by pressing the delete key. It will take a few minutes to discredit a TOE but many minutes to think it.

The undeniable maxim is that universal order takes temporal infinity at infinite volume while universal chaos takes only time zero at vanishing volume.

[Guille]

Antonio,

I believe your posts is the proof that time and energy are intimatelly related. But one thing, there are two types of do and two types of undo. Do divides in: constructive do and free do, the first is to make a house from a bunch of bricks, whiles the second is just having a bunch of bricks. UNDO divides in: deconstructive undo and destrcutive undo, the first is to divide a house bricks in order and study, whiles the second is just using Nobel's invention (dinamite) and making no effort. What is the physics implication-meaning of this differentiation I make?

[mkirkpatrick]

That is so true,Antonio,Once I spent years trying to merge a hostel for ex-cons,and alcoholics,into the local community.It required much hard work,and
lots of reassurance to the village community,we held meeting in the village
hall to do just that,we took questions from the assembly.some asked would
there children be safe?Would there be an increase in breakins and robberies?
After a while we were accepted in the village,but I was always very conscious,that itwould take just one drunken outburst in the village pub,or
one house being robbed,and all the trust built up would vanish overnight.
We did however build up quite relationship with the local police,theywould often,"look in" for a cup of tea,and maybe see if theywould spot a familier
face?An interesting development from this was that the local police inspector
asked me to chat withsome of his men,who he said had severe alcohol problems!

kind regards michael.

[harmonygirl]

Interesting ideas Antonio. I would not use "do" and "undo", I think create and destroy fit the bill a little better (sorry for quibbling with words, occupational hazard!) As Guille pointed out, there are a few meanings for "do/undo". Creation is definitely more energy intensive than destruction. I disagree with most of your examples, but agree with your principle (I don't think there was political balance prior to 9/11!, and relationships take longer to destroy than simply signing a form). I would go further and say that creation is WAY more satisfying than destruction (which only leaves you feeling empty and craving more destruction to distract yourself from the emptiness). But looked at another way, aren't both creation and destruction necessary for the cycle of life? In order to live we must kill (hamburgers or lettuce, it's all life). I like the Aboriginal custom of thanking that which you are about to feast upon for its sustenance. Maybe wholistic destruction? I haven't thought about this, but I can quote a famous saying. I think it was Shiva (?) "I am the bringer and destroyer of worlds"...maybe to be one, we have to be the other in order to balance?

[AntonioLao]

Originally Posted by GUILLE I believe your posts is the proof that time and energy are intimatelly related.

Heisenberg's uncertainty principle: DE Dt ³ h/2p.

Originally Posted by GUILLE What is the physics implication-meaning of this differentiation I make?

A four-fold symmetry?

Mike and harmonygirl,

This seems like a universal principle which could be applied to the dynamic transformation of anything or everytning including the mind.

[dleviwing]

Gullie;
Any term that infers motion (energy, force, mass, etc.) is going to be intimately related to "time", "space", and "space-time". It should not be viewed as an awe inspiring concept. I don't think Antonio's post provides proof of this relationship, it is only using this relationship just as so many others have done..

[Guille]

Antonio,

Would each of the four pats have the same 'size' I mean, exist in same quantities? Or is there more constructive do than free do or vice versa, and more destructive undo than deconstructive undo or vice versa?

Originally Posted by dleviwing Gullie; Any term that infers motion (energy, force, mass, etc.) is going to be intimately related to "time", "space", and "space-time". It should not be viewed as an awe inspiring concept. I don't think Antonio's post provides proof of this relationship, it is only using this relationship just as so many others have done..

I know that time and motion mean the same, and that anything that impplies change will impply time, space, and space-time. In fact, for existence to be, there is a need of the five magic concepts: matter, energy, force, space-time. First, there is matter, and that impplies directly space and energy in previous form, and as secondary properties (but just as necessary) time and force. All I think is that the fact that we need a lot of time and a lot of energy to build a house and little time and little energy to destry it is the a proof that time and energy are totally related. There are many other proves, but this one I like because it requiers an obvious implication: space (house occupies) and force. And confirms my reduction of the universe to the 5 concepts.

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by AntonioLao Heisenberg's uncertainty principle: DE Dt ³ h/2p. A four-fold symmetry? Mike and harmonygirl, This seems like a universal principle which could be applied to the dynamic transformation of anything or everytning including the mind.

Antonio,
This four fold symmetry,this dynamic transformation of anything and everything,including the mind,looks promising,the word "Transformation" reminds me of a naturally occuring cycle,and could be like Alchemy!Which of
course is all about transforming.

kind regards michael.

[Uncommon man]

Originally Posted by AntonioLao Here, ‘hard’ means time consuming, while ‘easy’ means no time at all. A good down-to-earth example of nature’s adherence to this universal principle is the phenomenon of lightning. It might seem unbelievable that about 100 strikes occur every second around the globe. These electrical discharges only took a fraction of a second to release the built-up electrical energy from extremely high potential differences. However, several days were needed to accumulate the static electric charges within cloud formations, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightning. Nonetheless, if one follows the threadlike filamentary path one realizes that it is not a straight line but rather more like fractal branching. And indeed lightning conforms to fractal geometry of chaos theory. A celestial example would be that of the birth of a star, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_formation. Star formations take billions of years yet a supernova takes a few days see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supernova. From a human perspective, this universal principle is signified by the pain and tribulation of years of living while death comes in an instant of abrupt separation. A failed marriage takes years or a few months to develop but it takes only less than a minute to sign the divorce’s paper for its dissolution. It takes years for engineers to plan, design, and construct structures such as bridges, roads, and buildings. However, demolition experts take less than a day to completely wipe them off the face of the earth. It takes years, or even centuries to achieve world’s political balance but the world disequilibrium is boasted by terrorists within one fateful morning of September 11, 2001. It is very hard to build but very easy to destroy. It took over an hour to type this text but erasing it just by pressing the delete key. It will take a few minutes to discredit a TOE but many minutes to think it. The undeniable maxim is that universal order takes temporal infinity at infinite volume while universal chaos takes only time zero at vanishing volume.

However it takes only a moment to knot a string tight but much longer to untie it.

[AntonioLao]

Originally Posted by GUILLE Would each of the four pats have the same 'size'

If they are the same 'size' then their forces are primary, hence repulsive. Otherwise, they are attractive.

Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick this dynamic transformation of anything and everything

I am working on an idea of discontinuous transformation instead of the usual continuous ones but both types of transformation coexist.

Originally Posted by Uncommon man a moment to knot a string tight but much longer to untie it.

Quantum entanglements last forever, it could never be untied.