Toe- the infinite fun.

[gautam]

We are living in this universe is just a feeling of a living being. It may not be the reality.We are living on the solid surface of the earth and can look upward and sideways further makes us feel that can have an objective outlook to our surroundings. But we are like a fish with the limitation to never come over to the surface of the sea. It is absolutely not right on the part of the fish to conclude that it is living in an infinite sea because it has never swimmed to the surface. The physical laws applicable in the liquid world of the fish will fail as soon as she comes out of the water. The law holding water into the sea is an extension of some bigger law which can be realised only by a better brain than a fish and who has essentially experienced the truth inside the water as well as out of it.
Our so understood objectivity has pushed us more into the quagmire of fallacies. We are like an ant inside a football with a constant feeling of being outside the football. We always feel that we are always standing on our legs with our head always upward. In the larger scheme that seems to be hardly true.
And we are searching the theory of every thing. We have developed our own mathematics for some practical purpose and some great ( in our own way) laws of physics to know the ultimate truth. Einstein was not sure of the infinite nature of the universe but had no doubt about the fact that our stupidity is infinite.
There is no theory of everything, at least for us. At the same time we are doomed to keep searching the same. Lets us therefore enjoy the search, till we die. Its infinite fun.

[mkirkpatrick]

You have made some interesting philosophical muslings here myfriend,reminds me of the story of two fish swimming in the sea,when a much larger fish swam by looking really
worried,I am looking for the water said the big fish,where can I find it?

regards michael.

[dleviwing]

Hi qautam;
Though the poor fish that leaves the water may believe the laws of physics has changed, it is only due to the fact that he is not aware of what the fundamental laws of physics are. This is the problem with science today, we do not comprehend a true paradigm of fundamental “Absolutes” that define the behavior of the fundamental stuff of the universe. If we state something to be a “Law of Physics”, then it must hold true without any exceptions. This is actually the ultimate goal of physics and it is expected to unify the theories of Relativity and Quantum Physics.

[lodestar]

There is a real theory of everything and it is based on a number that we say is undefined. That is why we have overlooked it. 1/0 is the God number, the mathematical definition of everything itself, that which comprises both positive and negative aspects of time and energy.

I like your analogy of the fish. Let me say that we are in such a sea and it is called the speed of light. Once we realize that we can exceed the speed of light using absolute acceleration and transcend time itself, we will be truely like a fish out of water. Everyone should be ready and have great expectations. For I can assure you, having the TOE is even more fun than looking for it Understanding it will revolutionize mankind forever and allow us to reach out into the universe and beyond.

[gautam]

I am not sceptical at all about TOE . There is of course one and only one theory behind the existence of this universe if it really exists. But I would like to draw your attention to an intelligent being like us who is existing at some point inside a huge sphere. He has never seen a sphere from outside. Just with the limitation that he is never going to be in the centre of the sphere by chance nor he can ever reach the boundary of the sphere. Equip him with all the existing laws of science, except the TOE ( lets save that for ourselves). Can he ever define his existence or the existence of his universe?

[lodestar]

I am not sceptical at all about TOE . There is of course one and only one theory behind the existence of this universe if it really exists. But I would like to draw your attention to an intelligent being like us who is existing at some point inside a huge sphere. He has never seen a sphere from outside. Just with the limitation that he is never going to be in the centre of the sphere by chance nor he can ever reach the boundary of the sphere. Equip him with all the existing laws of science, except the TOE ( lets save that for ourselves). Can he ever define his existence or the existence of his universe?

That is a good point gautam, something I was talking about in mkirkpatrick's thread just recently. How can we think outside the sphere? I would say that the intelligent being can see the sphere from the outside, by using his mind's eye. You see, while our bodies are rendered here in physical reality where the speed of light is a finite value, our mind can and does exist in a higher dimension, a dimension where the speed of light is 1/0. This means that since the mind exists in the 1/0 plane it's capacity is more than infinite. That is what allows beings to define absolute existence and arrive at the TOE while inside of everything. Because the mind exists beyond the existence of the infinite sphere and stretches out into the 1/0 plane. That is because our minds need and use all the potential space and time of existence just in order to think (animals are the same but they're not as profound at it as we are). So the amount of space in one's mind is 1/0 and that is why one can use one's mind to define that which is more than infinite - everything at all. So it is based on the fact that the amount of space in the mind is 1/0, and this mirrors the total amount of space in all of physical existence.

cheers

[gautam]

Its nice thought. We are intelligent in our own way but not in the larger scheme. The amount of space in our mind is beyond the limits we can think and hence infinite by our own definition. The basic problem with our mind is that it has to analyse to comprehend.
It cant comprehend anything absolute. It has to know what is darkness to understand what light is. It needs to know 2 to appreciate 1. The supreme realisation is something that cant be expressed into words and mathematical equations. As all becomes one and one all at that level, as in the Mest theory of everything. Probably one will have to invent his own Toe or declare it one day as a new religion for others to accept or reject.

[lodestar]

If we can't comprehend anything absolute then how was I able to define and comprehend 1/0? It is as opposed to absolutely nothing.

absolutely nothing=0/1
absolutely everything=1/0

they are mirror images of eachother.

The supreme realization is the realization of the God number, 1/0. You're right, it is not an equation, it is simply an absolution of great value. A better way to represent it though is as this symbol (link below). This symbol is the symbol of truth. It is the same symbol as Volantis's aether unit, independently discovered by both of us. It has a direct relationship to all natural and physical properties of the universe. Enjoy, it is incredibly beautiful.
http://www.photobucket.com/albums/y9...truesymbol.jpg

[gautam]

Dear Lodestar
The time has come to say goodbye to Zero. As I have said zero is the only thing man created, rest all existed here. Zero is nothing but a mathematical assumption. In real science it means bullshit. Man invented Zero as a sledge hammer to cut and drive. Simply because he was at loss and could not understand the absoluteness. The universe doesnt exist between zero and the infinity if we are ready to accept the small scale infinity. It is only because of zero that we are banging our heads with singularity. Whereas Nature abhors singularity.
Universe was not created as a game or a mathmatical riddle. Big bang is right only if it was a game. You better thik of infinity and 1/ infinity i.e small scale infinity. I am sorry but I know what I am saying.
Thanx Gautam

[mkirkpatrick]

Gautam,this is a very interesting thread,we can have fun looking for the toe,we may
indeed spend most of are lives looking for it,and most will fail.but it can be enjoyable
rising to the challenge,I am certain of one thing though,the answer when it comes,will
befrom within,and will not come from without!


regards michael.