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Re: What is the Root of all evil? - 04-29-2008, 08:13 AM

The mind can't do anything except extend the frontiers of it's own
ignorance.

~Ramana Maharshi

''The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in the mind at the same time, and still retain the ability to function''—F. Scott Fitzgerald

The Light and the Mirror

The mirror can do nothing to attract the sun. It can only keep bright. As soon as the mind is ready, the sun shines in. [The light] is uncaused and unvarying by itself, and coloured by the mind as soon as it moves and changes. It is very much like a cinema. The light is not in the film, but the film colours the light and makes it appear to move by intercepting it.
Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj


For him who penetrates deeply into the roots of logic itself, The Recognition, which remains the magic Touchstone, can be aroused. There seem to be but a small number of such constants, yet upon their recognition all the compulsive power of logic depends. Nearly all men who have understood what these constants are find it impossible not to believe them, but no man can prove them since they form the ground on which all proofs rest. Now whence comes the compelling assurance that these are necessarily true? Experience gives probable knowledge at best, but never compelling assurance; so the source is not in pure experience. The answer is perfectly clear. The power of these constants is due to the fact that they completely constitute a veiled Recognition that the race has completely lost, and they are probably the principle agent that has kept this humanity from becoming wholly insane. Let a man unveil this Recognition and make it immediately and consciously his own, and then he will find in logic a power which, if followed with a single eye, will take him through to the Higher Consciousness. Once given that original Recognition, logic does supply unanswerable demonstration, and thus breaks through the closed vortex of subject-object consciousness.

The only hope for man, taken individually or as a whole, rests upon a process of Awakening, which together with some others, is called "Re-cognition". This is neither pure experience nor pure formal demonstration but a totally different kind of knowledge. It is a "Knowledge through Identity." It is intuition, in the highest sense, but the word 'intuition' covers other meanings; so the former term is less ambiguous. Genuine Knowledge through Identity is infallible and absolute. It is substantial and not relative. It does not merely mean something other than Itself but is absolutely Its own Meaning. Knowledge through Identity is not possessed by any self but Is the SELF. It is not 'knowledge about,' not even in the sense of 'about God,' but is Divinity Itself Thus we have six primary propositions which, when exalted to Recognition, reclaim man unequivocally:

This is The Christ Conscience[Consciousness], spoken of and alluded to, by the psalmist:

1. "I Am not other than God."
2. "God is not other than I."
3. "I Am not other than Knowledge."
4. "Knowledge is not other than I."
5. "God is not other than Knowledge."
6. "Knowledge is not other than God."

Let a man repeat these affirmations, but not as pure prepositions. Let him add to those repetitions some measure of that indefinable quality We call 'Recognition,'and they will at once become magical agents with some measure of potency, ranging from a faint stirring of a bare sense of Beyondness up to a power so great that the whole universe is, at it were, dislodged from its commanding position. I Know this to be true, but how can I transfer this certainty?

Finding God is coming to one's Self
The more he carries on this intelligent and purposive experimentation with his own life, the deeper becomes his comprehension of the true meaning of life. Until finally he discovers that as he is undergoing a complete transformation of his being, he is arriving at a true perception of the real significance of life as it is. With a clear and tranquil vision of the real nature and worth of life he realizes that God, whom he has been so desperately seeking, is no stranger nor hidden and foreign entity. He is Reality itself and not a hypothesis. He is Reality seen with undimmed vision - that very Reality of which he is a part and in which he has had his entire being and with which he is infact identical.
Thus, though he begins by seeking something utterly new, he really arrives at a new understanding of something ancient. The spiritual journey does not consist in arriving at a new destination where a person gains what he did not have or becomes what he was not. It consists in the dissipation of his ignorance concerning himself and life, and the gradual growth of that understanding which begins with spiritual awakening. The finding of God is a coming to one's own Self.

The sweet sacramental act between soul and spirit:Mind, the All-Father, who is Life and Light, gave birth to humanity, which bore his own image, and he took delight in his offspring. Joined to gods by a sense of kinship, humanity worshipped them with piety and holy thoughts, while, for their part the gods watch over humankind with concern and mercy.At first man was solely eternal and spiritual, but God saw that his new creation could not tend the Earth unless he sheltered him in a material envelope - - giving man a mortal body as well as an immortal soul. So, God bade Nature be, and from his voice came a woman's form, so lovely that the gods were smitten with her beauty. God made Nature mistress of the World.She communed with herself, producing all kinds of seeds which God took hold of with hi hands and scattered over the Earth, who is the mother of all worldly things. Seeing in man a beautiful image of God, Nature was filled with insatiable love. She clasped him to her, and they merged to become one in love. Mortal and eternal blended and mingled so that Man may perform the demands of sources of his nature. Firstly, to serve God - venerating and praising the things of heaven. Secondly, to assist and administer the things of Earth, by tilling the soil, navigating the waters, building on the land, and by serving each other - that strongest of bonds that links the human race together.Then God, the master of generation, bestowed on mankind the sacrament of reproduction - full of affection and joy, gladness and yearning, and all the heavenly love that is in his Being.I would have to explain the nature of this compelling sacred bond that binds a man and a woman together, were it not that each one of us, if we explore our innermost feeling, can experience it for ourselves.Contemplate that supreme moment, when each sex infuses the other. One giving forth and the other eagerly embracing. At that moment, through the intermingling of the two nature, the female acquires male vigor, and the male is relaxed in female languor. This sweet sacramental act we celebrate is shared in secret, because if performed openly before impure eyes, the ignorant may mock and the divine power manifesting in both sexes will shy away.


Evil or suffering arises only for the seeker.

The wayward Soul knows ambiguity, until it encounters Spirit, then Love Blossoms in that rapture.

The Gnostic is a founder. One with the True Self.

True Love
D.

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I was thinking the same thing only this morning, Pat.

That love could be the root of all evil.

Maybe why tina said she was scared and afraid to reveal her conclusion.

Crimes of passion and all .....but then this is linked to ego that drifter mentioned.

Real true LOVE has no roots in evil.

We live a rootless existence.

Roam free the mystery of being.

Leave yourself behind and taste ultimate freedom.

One Taste.

Truth.

LOVE.
  
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Re: What is the Root of all evil? - 04-29-2008, 08:28 AM

People are afraid, very much afraid of those who know themselves.
They have a certain power, a certain aura and a certain magnetism,
a charisma that can take out alive, you people from the traditional imprisonment ...
The enlightened man cannot be enslaved - that is the difficulty - and he cannot be imprisoned ...
Every genius who has known something of the inner is bound to be a little difficult to be absorbed;
he is going to be an upsetting force.
The masses don't want to be disturbed, even though they may be in misery;
they are in misery, but they are accustomed to the misery.
And anybody who is not miserable looks like a stranger.
The enlightened man is the greatest stranger in the world;
he does not seem to belong to anybody. No organization confines him,
no community no society, no nation.

Osho.



Oneness is the key to dissolve duality
and move us into the greater reality.

''Those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind''
  
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Re: What is the Root of all evil? - 04-29-2008, 08:33 AM

NO-THINGNESS

Buddha has chosen one of the really very potential words - shunyata.
The English word, the English equivalent, 'nothingness', is not such a beautiful word.
That's why I would like to make it 'no-thingness' - because the nothing is not just nothing, it is all.
It is vibrant with all possibilities. It is potential, absolute potential.
It is unmanifest yet, but it contains all.
In the beginning is nature, in the end is nature, so why in the middle do you make so much fuss?
Why, in the middle, becoming so worried, so anxious, so ambitious - why create such despair?
Nothingness to nothingness is the whole journey.

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Re: What is the Root of all evil? - 04-29-2008, 08:43 AM

The mind can't do anything except extend the frontiers of it's own
ignorance.

~Ramana Maharshi

Mind can never be intelligent - only no-mind is intelligent.
Only no-mind is original and radical. Only no-mind is revolutionary - revolution is action.
This mind gives you a sort of stupor.
Burdened by the memories of the past, burdened by the projections of the future,
you go on living - at the minimum.
You don't live at the maximum. Your flame remains very dim.
Once you start dropping thoughts, the dust that you have collected in the past,
the flame arises - clean, clear, alive, young.
Your whole life becomes a flame, and a flame without any smoke.
Awareness is this.



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Re: What is the Root of all evil? - 04-29-2008, 10:12 AM

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Evil or suffering arises only for the seeker.

The wayward Soul knows ambiguity, until it encounters Spirit, then Love Blossoms in that rapture.

The Gnostic is a founder. One with the True Self.

True Love
D.

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(Michael Cretu)

Shall I go, shall I stay
107 light years away
many times, so many doubts
But no reason to talk about

Mission is over, mission is done
I will miss you, children of the sun
But it's time to go away
Goodbye milky way

For a better world without hate
Follow your heart, believe in fate
Only visions and the mind
Will guide you to the light

Mission is over mission is done
I will miss you children of the sun
But it's time to go away
Goodbye milky way

Mission is over, mission is done
I will miss you children of the sun
I go home until someday
I say goodbye, goodbye milky way

In 5 bilions years the Andromeda galaxy will collide with our milky way
A new gigantic Cosmic world will be born



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Re: What is the Root of all evil? - 04-29-2008, 05:47 PM

Good grief! You two love birds are making sure Tina has a LOT of reading to catch up on...

I feel like I'm creating a menage a trois just reading it!


"Perfection is not when there is more to add, but when there is no more to take away." Antoine De Saint-Exupery
"A man is rich in proportion to the number of things he can afford to let alone." Henry David Thoreau
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Re: What is the Root of all evil? - 04-29-2008, 06:18 PM

Careful dear, rapture such as this is contagious and highly addictive.

ever curious souls that we are

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Re: What is the Root of all evil? - 04-29-2008, 06:21 PM

Melanie you're far to good looking to be going steady with a guy that looks like this:


Even if he does have a good heart.

Best to both of you,

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Re: What is the Root of all evil? - 04-29-2008, 06:25 PM

I'll have you know Sir, I resemble that remark!


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Even if he does have a good heart.

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Re: What is the Root of all evil? - 04-29-2008, 06:32 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJqNxKdgyqM


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Good grief! You two love birds are making sure Tina has a LOT of reading to catch up on...

I feel like I'm creating a menage a trois just reading it!
  
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