[Tina]

Originally Posted by Profpat Hi Tina and everyone; I just heard that on Comedy Central ( American TV ) March 12, 2008 they are going to have Lewis Black do a special on the ROOT OF ALL EVIL. Maybe then I'll have an answer to your thought provoking question. Best to all, Pat

That leaves me three options :

1) Answer question by refering all to Comedy Central 12 March program.
2) Answer question before the now 12 March deadline...
3) Answer question after the 12 March based on better plagerised ideas.

[Profpat]

Knowing Lewis Black his answer(s) will be very funny.

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by Tina Yes that sounds like it might be where Michael is coming from. My question is: What is it about human self aware subjective selves (which is a necessary condition of sentient existance) that has led us to create these negative connotations of seperateness. We await your reply Michael.

Basically because we are tricked and misinformed by our senses,thereby thinking that we are apart and seperate from our kin.It is only when we go
within that we find and make the connections,prior to that man fools himself
that he can do unkind and nasty things to his brother-and get away-scot free!

When we know the truth of the matter,we know also that we cannot harm
our brother without first harming ourselves!(plus of course we and brother are
one of the same?)

regards michael.

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by Profpat I believe what Michael is implying is that since we think we have an individual FORM it seperates us from being part of the ONE. Consequently there is you and me, and we believe we are seperate and distinct and that is where evil begins. But I hope Michael will see your question and answer on his own, rather than relying on my interpretation. Best to you Tina, Pat

Thank you Pat,I have seen he question,and may I say Pat that I agree totally with your
answer,"they say great minds think alike!"

I would indeed have said something like that.

regards michael.

[Profpat]

Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick Thank you Pat,I have seen he question,and may I say Pat that I agree totally with your answer,"they say great minds think alike!" I would indeed have said something like that. regards michael.

To know you is to love you Michael. And I agree if this seperateness we feel if it isn't the cause of evil it surely helps to perpetuate it.

Best,

Pat

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by Profpat To know you is to love you Michael. And I agree if this seperateness we feel if it isn't the cause of evil it surely helps to perpetuate it. Best, Pat

I am sure that the "feeling" of being seperate from other is the root cause or evil.

Bless you to Pat.


warm regards michael.

[futrethink]

Tina.
---I’m still waiting on your answer to this post # 568.
---Hopefully I won’t have to wait as long a time, for answer, as we are waiting for an answer to the original delivery (4 ½ months).

[futrethink]

Darwin43.

More and more, social, technological and political innovations make it possible for all of us to win at the same time.

---I’m just curious as to whom you include in the ‘all of us’ in the ‘winners’ group? Since as you so, in a limited way, but succinctly put it, “For one person to get out of a relationship to find a better one, one person must have their heart crushed. It's a fundamental organization of the universe.” For one individual to ‘win/have a positive’, in one way, there is a ‘loss/negative’, in another aspect, for another or the same individual.

In the process, "evil" will destroy the old ways of life, select against them, until all that is left is the cooperative structure. There will still be competition, but organized competition - not the imbalanced process we most recognize as evil.

---You don’t see the loss/negative/limits in an organized co-operative? To have such a system, usually means that only certain paths are allowed to be chosen. To go outside those walls will cause, what is believed to be, unnecessary and unpredictable disorder or ‘evil’.
---I do understand that such a Federated system is a peaceful and mostly predictable way of existence. I even push for it in other discussions. There is just something about it that I believe/know is wrong/bad/evil in pertaining to an entirety of existence context.

In the mean time, we act cruelly to criminals because we need to clear obstacles to the greater good, but by calling what we are doing just or good, we ignore that they too were created by the process and our treatment of them is merely a short-term evil justified by a long-term good.

---Evil is done, at a single point in time, so that as time passes good might arise from it at another point. The reverse is true as well; from doing good, at certain point in time, evil might arise from it as time passes.

[futrethink]

mkirkpatrick.

I am sure that the "feeling" of being seperate from other is the root cause or evil.

---To an extent, I agree with that. Lack of understanding that there is a connection between all things is one of the things that will cause evil to occur.
---Being separated, without consideration of the individual wanting to be a part of the group, is also a part of the cause for evil to arise. As is the case of say: some of the students who go postal in schools. They want to be a part of the ‘norm’ and get hurt and angry because they are not allowed to be such.
---Also, there are individuals who cause evil because they want to be separate, in their own way (even knowing that they aren’t at one level) and are not allowed to be.
---In and of itself, being separate from others and other things is not the root cause of evil.

[Profpat]

Originally Posted by futrethink Tina. ---I’m still waiting on your answer to this post # 568. ---Hopefully I won’t have to wait as long a time, for answer, as we are waiting for an answer to the original delivery (4 ½ months).

"Come on.... It's only been 4 1/2 months."

I agree she should have responded to your excellent post # 568 however.