[Drifter]

"Like Two Golden Birds perched in the self-same tree

The Ego and The True Self, intimate friends and inseparable,

The former partakes of the sweet and the bitter fruits of

The Tree of Life while the latter looks on,

In Detachment." ~The Mundaka Upanishad

[merely a different consciousness]

aka The death and resurrection of the Godman, or Brahman, or The Christ Consciousness, or Awareness, or Awakening, or Lucid Living . . . or The Spirit Enraptured Soul, or . . .The Immaculate Conception, or . . .The God of our own Under-standing . . .

[austintorn@aol.com]

"Truth, Righteousness, Peace, Love and Non-violence."

Good posting, r.p.bibra,

Some human values seem to be getting taught more in the schools, such as the effects of drunk-driving, sexually transmitted diseases, albeit under health values.

Emphasis could next be put on avoiding meanness, gossip, lies, etc, in favor of decency and your five points.

It would not be necessary to bring in the supernatural, as these human values relate to the treatment of other humans.

No one could argue with such black-and-white values being taught.

There is more talk of this here abouts:

http://www.toequest.com/forum/religi...ankind-39.html

[r.p.bibra]

Originally Posted by Profpat "... love, compassion, humility and sacrifice..." What is the 5th fundamental value?

Prof. tests a puny mind! Pl. don’t, the pupil, as usual will fail the test.
There are only five fundamental values, others are their derivatives and love is their mother. We can have as many values as we like, but they should be universally applicable, and should not change and cater to particular castes, creeds and nationalities,
No child is born a wise, though each one is equipped with the quality of intellect. Human values keep latent unless made patent. Seeds sown by a farmer need timely irrigation, manure, pesticides and a fence round the field to protect from stray animals, similarly the human mind too needs a right atmosphere for the blossoming of latent values. Love is the only attribute which provides that. All others just follow, as these are its accessories.love & regards.ls.

[Drifter]

The battle is the same one, fought on the same ground, for the same prize, for all time, all over the Earth.

TWO WOLVES

One evening an old Cherokee told his grandson about a
battle that goes on inside people.


He said, "My son, the battle is between two
"wolves" inside us all.



One is Evil. It is anger, envy, jealousy, sorrow, regret,
greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false-
pride, superiority, and ego.



The other is Good. It is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility,
kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion and faith."



The grandson thought about it for a minute and then asked his grandfather:


"Which wolf wins?"



The old Cherokee simply replied, "The one you feed."

Originally Posted by austintorn@aol.com "Truth, Righteousness, Peace, Love and Non-violence." Good posting, r.p.bibra, Some human values seem to be getting taught more in the schools, such as the effects of drunk-driving, sexually transmitted diseases, albeit under health values. Emphasis could next be put on avoiding meanness, gossip, lies, etc, in favor of decency and your five points. It would not be necessary to bring in the supernatural, as these human values relate to the treatment of other humans. No one could argue with such black-and-white values being taught. There is more talk of this here abouts: http://www.toequest.com/forum/religi...ankind-39.html

[melanie]

Drifter: The one you feed

Ha, so true, it is simple science.



feed it and it will grow
stop feeding and it will die

what do you want to grow?
what do you want to die?

WoW! sometimes i even amaze myself LOL



i love simplicity ... ......it'll do for me

HI D ..HI

i love answering your posts.

nuff.


[EDIT]
sorry D
you bring out the silly in me.

Love does that.

[EDIT]
When i look at her [nature]
i want to cry
with tears of joy

SHE is beauty.

[melanie]

Drifter: The battle is the same one, fought on the same ground, for the same prize, for all time, all over the Earth.

L K OUT!! ..... Mirror Balls Are everywhere.

The cosmic joke.....is SEE-in yourself everywhere.

We reflect! ...... Truth ....... NOW!

If the mirror is dusty......What you gonna do?
AWARENESS

Mind can never be intelligent - only no-mind is intelligent.
Only no-mind is original and radical. Only no-mind is revolutionary - revolution is action.
This mind gives you a sort of stupor.
Burdened by the memories of the past, burdened by the projections of the future, you go on living - at the minimum.
You don't live at the maximum. Your flame remains very dim.
Once you start dropping thoughts, the dust that you have collected in the past, the flame arises - clean, clear, alive, young.
Your whole life becomes a flame, and a flame without any smoke.
That is what awareness is.

[Drifter]

EGO.

Where ego I go. ?

Originally Posted by Tina I am seeking a single word or a single statement in answer to the question "What is the root of all evil?". (no Doctoral thesis' allowed). Keep it as simple as you can...so that a child could even understand it! I have my theory - and it explains (to me anyway) every crappy thing humans have done in all of known human history! Theoretically if the root of all evil is identified then we may be able to see how we contribute to it and do something about it. But if at the end of this forum when I disclose my own answer and you might disagee - then you can have an opportunity to challenge my answer. Why don't you have a go at thinking this one through. So...WHAT IS THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL?

[Profpat]

[quote=Drifter;53018]"Like Two Golden Birds perched in the self-same tree




So would you two love birds like to venture a guess as to the " root of all evil "? Surely it's not LOVE.

[melanie]

Drifter: aka The death and resurrection of the Godman, or Brahman, or The Christ Consciousness, or Awareness, or Awakening, or Lucid Living . . . or The Spirit Enraptured Soul, or . . .The Immaculate Conception, or . . .The God of our own Under-standing . . .

''aka The death and resurrection of the Godman, or Brahman, or The Christ Consciousness, or Awareness, or Awakening, or Lucid Living . . . or The Spirit Enraptured Soul, or . . .The Immaculate Conception, or . . .The God of our own Under-standing . .'' ...or... awe_


Some!!!

[melanie]

[quote=Profpat;53043]

Originally Posted by Drifter "Like Two Golden Birds perched in the self-same tree >>>sweet tweet! tweet! pic, So would you two love birds like to venture a guess as to the " root of all evil "? Surely it's not LOVE.

I was thinking the same thing only this morning, Pat.

That love could be the root of all evil.

Maybe why tina said she was scared and afraid to reveal her conclusion.

Crimes of passion and all .....but then this is linked to ego that drifter mentioned.

Real true LOVE has no roots in evil.

We live a rootless existence.

Roam free the mystery of being.

Leave yourself behind and taste ultimate freedom.

One Taste.

Truth.

LOVE.