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Re: The importance of a theory - 11-07-2007, 03:39 PM

"Sure you have zero apples but there is water where the apples were and air where the water was when it dropped."

I guess this is pok's reference, but mine is to think in terms of the jug itself and everything in it being made of the same absolute susbtance (in the east it is called the "substance-less substance). It cannot be divided.

Therefore, since we KNOW that it cannot be literally divided, pok, we can know that the division is illusory.

As for the math, more hindrance, 0/0=anything, something, everything, nothing, etc., so there is no need for a number to represent everything because the absolute center already does that by carrying throughout any and all measurements.

Besides, 1/0 does not equal everything (even if you don't intend it as representing 1) because everything (one undivided) multiplied by zero would have to equal 1, but it doesn't.
  
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Smile Re: The importance of a theory - 11-07-2007, 06:19 PM

Thanks POK,infinitely secure,just IS?Your thread is an important theory,that highlights
the way we see things.



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Re: The importance of a theory - 11-07-2007, 09:09 PM

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"Sure you have zero apples but there is water where the apples were and air where the water was when it dropped."

I guess this is pok's reference, but mine is to think in terms of the jug itself and everything in it being made of the same absolute susbtance (in the east it is called the "substance-less substance). It cannot be divided.
correct! It cannot be divided. Which means the same thing as divided by nothing. Which also means indefinate and which also means indivisible.

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Therefore, since we KNOW that it cannot be literally divided, pok, we can know that the division is illusory.
correct. This means the same thing as divided by zero.

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As for the math, more hindrance, 0/0=anything, something, everything, nothing, etc., so there is no need for a number to represent everything because the absolute center already does that by carrying throughout any and all measurements.
Thanks Nobody for the reply. You are right in many ways. There is still theoretically need for the number 1/0 however because if 1/0 didn't exist then 0/0 could never be equal to 1/0 and then nothing could exist and nothing would be paramount. This is all in pure theory but it is a complete theory that can neither be proven nor disproven, only understood or misunderstood.

You are right, or at least I would agree, that everything is composed of the same absolute substance. If you were to look inside one photon you would see the entire universe. I'm going to get into this more for this month's theme which Robert has picked about the expansion of time.

The universe as a whole is 1/0, and as it's parts it is 1/0. That is because the smallest particle that is indivisible that makes up the whole universe is a photon, but if you look inside the photon you see the entire universe again. Everything is repeated in everything and 1/0 is crucially the value, of absolutely great merit, which gives worth to all value. It is that irrevocable meaning which gives meaning to meaning. Without it, nothing could be, not even the number 0/0. Anything you see is made up of 1 undivided substance which is light. In it's different configurations it is manifested as 0/0, but in it's pure spirit and form it is just the 1 indivisible substance known as 1/0 or also known as light. And light and consciousness and energy and time are all the same thing. Kudos

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Besides, 1/0 does not equal everything (even if you don't intend it as representing 1) because everything (one undivided) multiplied by zero would have to equal 1, but it doesn't.
Begging your pardon nobody, but you are wrong, or at least mistaken. 1/0 times 0 does equal 1.

Now I know that if you include 1/0 in a math system you can prove strange things such as that 1=2. But it is infact true that 1 can equal 2 because energy can be both created or destroyed, and everything can change into everything. Yet no more energy can be created or destroyed than 1/0, because 1/0 is the absolutely greatest value and it has no limit! Hell, we know that energy can be created because the universe is expanding faster every day! Scientists just can't come to terms with the implications yet, but all of us can because we know that science is bunk and we know it is going to take something to save this planet, like a miracle, and it is going to take a reversal of the laws of thermodynamics to get us to the nearest star system, which we ARE destined to get to. Right? Right! Don't ask me how or why but that is what we are going to do and I'll be damned if it doesn't happen in our lifetimes because I already know it is possible. That's because everything is possible, and nothing is impossible, and i know because of 1/0, whatever that may be.

Also one substance can change into another. Alchemy is true and people are already doing it believe it or not, me being one of them from what I can tell from my experiments but unfortunately the people at the library threw it away because they didn't know whose it was or what it was. 1/0 you see is the number that informs us that everything is possible. It's just a number, but if you know what it means you realize exactly what is going on and you realize the all-possibility! Transmutation my friend. Freedom. Antigravity. Limitless Energy. That is why it is important and that is why it can enlighten a fellow and make him open up his eyes. There's way too many laws that say what you can't do. All of those laws are false. The only law is the law of no laws. The importance of a theory is that it tells us that everything is possible and that everything can be predicted, even that which you think is impossible, incredible, and unbelievable. Give it credit, give it possibility, and you better damn well believe it!

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Re: The importance of a theory - 11-10-2007, 06:24 AM

There is a simple answer here: 1/0 is not defined. That is, even stating that "1/0" has any relevance to anything is a completely nonsensical point argument. Division in the real numbers is defined as a/b=c iff a=bc and b is not zero, and so in order for your argument to make any sense, you need to redefine division such that 1/0 has a value, and then start from the very bottom of mathematics and work upwards, redefining, and rewriting proofs. I guarantee that you will, after a while, get some very strange results. This is the reason that division by 0 is undefined.
  
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Re: The importance of a theory - 11-10-2007, 04:45 PM

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There is a simple answer here: 1/0 is not defined. That is, even stating that "1/0" has any relevance to anything is a completely nonsensical point argument. Division in the real numbers is defined as a/b=c iff a=bc and b is not zero, and so in order for your argument to make any sense, you need to redefine division such that 1/0 has a value, and then start from the very bottom of mathematics and work upwards, redefining, and rewriting proofs. I guarantee that you will, after a while, get some very strange results. This is the reason that division by 0 is undefined.
Dude, I just explained that I have defined 1/0. Division still stays the same. Division by zero means there is not division which means unified, field that is. And yes that is my middle name. And yes, I did get some strange effects!!! That doesn't mean that division by not anything at all is undefined, it just means that it's bad ass and will blow your freaking socks off. Wish you knew but you'll have to play with magnets if you really want to find out for yourself. Or look at what Kosol has been saying. I think you will find his name on this forum now.
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Dude, I just explained that I have defined 1/0. Division still stays the same. Division by zero means there is not division which means unified, field that is. And yes that is my middle name. And yes, I did get some strange effects!!! That doesn't mean that division by not anything at all is undefined, it just means that it's bad ass and will blow your freaking socks off. Wish you knew but you'll have to play with magnets if you really want to find out for yourself. Or look at what Kosol has been saying. I think you will find his name on this forum now.
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So, what have you defined 1/0 to be? Infinity, zero, or just 1/0? I presume that 1/0=n/0 \,\,\,\,\,\forall n \in \mathbb{N}, or in fact for all real n. So this means that the multiplicative inverse of a number, defined in this case as 0/n=0 is not unique. This is not good for maths. So, like I said before, would you like to provide us will all your new axioms for you new number system, to enable us to use it? Otherwise it is useless: and, for the record, it is nonsense.


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Re: The importance of a theory - 11-10-2007, 05:20 PM

Ok thanks Neutralino, I appreciate for your question which is outstandingly merited and which I will now answer.

Here is all the justification for division by zero of one value.

One value that is divided by nothing is simply a value which is fully connected, integrated, and complete. But in order for it to be this, it must also be a consistent contradiction. This is what allows time to be the way that it is and means that all of the most important scientific laws are wrong and now have to be rewritten.

I am very glad you asked this question in fact, because now I can explain that 1/0 is not infinity or zero, it is just one thing that is so amazing that it is not divided by anything at all, in fact, it is fully unified and completely paramount. It is everything. It is the unified field. It is the nearest point of energy. It is the opposite of nothing. It is the reciprocal of 0.

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multiplicative inverse of a number, defined in this case as 0/n=0 is not unique, I assume you mean that it can be shown that one number can equal any other number. And yes in fact this is true, because it signifies that one moment constantly changes into the next moment, and that energy is constantly being created and can be destroyed or reversed. But zero is not a number and zero is not a moment, and so one moment divided by 0 is all moments undivided. And yes it is very good for maths and for humanity because it means that everything is possible and we can get ourselves out of this mess, which we got ourselves into and have chosen.

And here are all your axioms you seek for

algebraic options concerning division by zero often represent a counterpart to their option for multiplication by zero

For example, any number multiplied by nothing is nothing
Any number divided by nothing is everything
that is because everything is the unified field

Also, nothing times everything is anything, or the number 0/0

Nothing added or subtracted to anything ever changes it's value

And anything added or subtracted to anything never changes it's value

Everything is equal and paramount and the absolute greatest value. Everything is the combination of positive and negative infinity. Positive infinity is our time and negative infinity is there time.

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Re: The importance of a theory - 11-10-2007, 05:47 PM

1. You need to define "division" since you cannot use the standard definition of division.
2. Is 0/0 equal to n/0?
3. With respect to multiplicative inverses, I mean that the real numbers are no longer a ring: i.e. we do not have the statement "for each nonzero a in R, there exists a multiplicative inverse of a, denoted 1/a."


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Re: The importance of a theory - 11-10-2007, 05:55 PM

You might also want to consider whether you want the relationship \frac{a}{b}+\frac{c}{b}=\frac{a+c}{b} to hold in your number system.


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Re: The importance of a theory - 11-16-2007, 05:04 PM

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You might also want to consider whether you want the relationship \frac{a}{b}+\frac{c}{b}=\frac{a+c}{b} to hold in your number system.
Ok well thanks again Neutralino for the questions. I don't know if you side with devleweing or what, or if you say I'm a crank or crackpot though i have no idea what EITHER of those words mean and personally I think they mean something else than you say they mean, but really it doesn't matter because only me is the one who do actual experiments with electromagnetism and do practical science not this armchair bullshit. So side with whoever you want it doesn't matter because in the end we are all one human race and nothing divides us friend. And the only way we will learn anything is by doing ACTUAL experiments including magnetic monopole and weather control which you think is impossible but then again, they thought that about 1/0 too didn't they?

Now i will attempt to answer your question which I appreciate because you seem to be a math guru and I am a math guru too plus a genious who scored %99 for math on the ACT test. You seem like a skeptic but one who is open minded so you are a genius too in my book. Only a skeptic can be a skeptic of skeptics.

That having been said, defining 1/0 does not change division it just means you are taken one particularly magnanimous and beautiful value to be not divided at all. divided by zero=divided by nothing=not divided at all=fully unified. Do you see this?

yes, 1/0 equals n/0 in that 1/0 equals 2/0 and also equals 0/0. And yes 1=2 because one moment is constantly transformed into the next and time is a consistent contradiction where any substance can change into any other substance because all substances are LIGHT. But the one thing 1/0 can never equal is 0 and that is because 0 does not exist. Nothing must not exist in order for everything to exist. Everything is that which is defined by the light and 0 is UNDEFINED under the light.

So 1/0 exists in the sense that there is one magnanimous value that is not divided by anything at all and this thing is fully connected. It is the unified field my friend.

And once you understand the principles of the unified field you will begin doing magnetics experiments to prove the only conclusion you will be able to reach, which is that EVERYTHING IS POSSIBLE AND CAN NEITHER BE PROVEN OR DISPROVEN, ONLY DEMONSTRATED!

Then you will realize it is possible to send something faster than TSOL. In fact, as I have explained for this month's topic, the reason the universe began is because SOMETHING CAN BE AND INDID ALREADY HAS BEEN SENT FASTER THAN TSOL!

And you will soon realize that the laws of thermodynamics can reverse under certain circumstances, like when the universe begins expanding too fast, like when one planck distance expands at greater than TSOL. And thus the laws of thermodynamics as they stand are totally irrelevant and things that we thought were impossible are really possible. For example, a perpetual motion machine is not really a perpetual motion machine like you think it is but it is just simply a machine that converts the expansion of the universe into useable energy. It is a reproducing phenomenon the same as light and the same as DNA. This is the only type of energy that has a sparrow's chance in heck of getting us to the nearest star system. Also this kind of energy source is the only way we can save our planet from it's imminent destruction by our own archaic oil ways and wars. And the unified field theory is that which describes that all man should live in peace and not bicker and argue and call eachother meaningless names like crackpot.

So when you went to design a machine that converts the expansion of time into energy you discovered an interesting side effect that this machine can use what is called the butterfly effect and cause massive changes in the weather from only a small amount of energy. This type of technological advancement can be used to clean up our environment and you better believe it friend because the time is NOW! Now is the time to do the things we have been needing to do and we can turn this ship around my friend. It's not too good to be true, because the true saying is that TRUTH IS STRANGER THAN FICTION!!!

So do you believe me now about all these things I am telling you? And do you have any more questions about the new number system that is the opposite of what we have now because in this new system NOthing is undefined and Everything is defined, and the number line is not a line at all but a continuous circle. One wants to answer everything so you know that this is true or else you will find out for yourself.

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