[sillysally]

I am trying to understand what you are saying bottomlander. Is woman's body more superior than man? I think they both have pro's and con's, but from a physical standpoint (not reproductive) I think man has an advantage which leads me to think that he is better evolved and came later. But for woman to be older, her reproduction system is superior.

[Rufus]

Originally Posted by Fluent Piffle I agree! But that's because it isn't needed, it is currently jealously wanted. There are 'prizes' involved, not to mention all 'other' kinds of personal gain. While we have this 'separatist' attitude, it will remain a want, and that means continued opposition. 'Impossible' under current circumstances, but then...everything always changes. pif.

Unfortunately there will never be a theory that is accepted as being valid simply because validation beyond 'being convinced' is not possible. It's all just conjecture.

Another problem is that a 'Theory' is just that and can never be a solution as to why or how we exist.

[purveyor of knowledge]

Originally Posted by sillysally Ok, this is why I think the toe isn't needed. If the theory of everything is to include everything that would include opposing reasons for everything. See? IT'S IMPOSSIBLE.

Exactly right Silly Sally! Never mind IQ scores, you are a genious!

If the TOE includes everything it must include opposing reasons for everything. Therefore it is impossible! Or is it?

Maybe it does not have to be impossible if it is all really based on our definition and what we consider to be possible. Perhaps if we rewrite our definition of everything we can accept that it may be a consistent contradiction afterall, which is poignant I think. Remember my post where I said that the importance of the TOE is that it allows us to know what we cannot know. In other words, maybe it will provide opposing views. It may offer a choice between believing and not believing everything. This may even be related to what is demonstrated in mathematics and called the "axiom of choice." Only a world based on opposing views would allow for an axiom of choice and the determination for will.

So I think you would agree with me when I say that everything is possible, because, everything is a consistent contradiction, or else it is nothing.

So think about this Sally, if the TOE must be based on opposing viewpoints than doesn't this remind you of 1/0, which is the only number that is simultaneously both positive and negative. Maybe the reason some people seem to think this number should be undefined is the same reason we can't accept that the TOE is impossible, possibly. It depends on whether we believe in and can appreciate the immutability of consistent contradiction or whether we think it is just proposterous and stupid.

In some sense the TOE isn't needed, because we already have it, if we just change our viewpoint and expand the definition of what we think is possible, logical, or somehow justified.

[sillysally]

Originally Posted by purveyor of knowledge Remember my post where I said that the importance of the TOE is that it allows us to know what we cannot know. So in other words, it may have to provide opposing views. It may offer a choice between believing and not believing everything. This may even be related to what is proven in mathematics and called the "axiom of choice." Only a world based on opposing views would allow for an axiom of choice and the determination for will.

Isn't that happening already?

Everything is nothing if not a consistent contradiction. You just said it too!

Ooo, freaky! As though we know the toe and don't at the same time.

So think about this Sally, if the TOE must be based on opposing viewpoints than doesn't this remind you of 1/0, which is simultaneously both positive and negative. Maybe the reason some people seem to think this number should be undefined is the same reason we can't accept that the TOE is impossible, depending on our definition and whether we accept the possible immutability of consistent contradiction.

Yeah, it does remind me of 1/0. Our brains, right and left contradict with reason and intuition.

So in this sense the TOE isn't needed, because we already have it, if we just change our viewpoint and expand the definition of what we think is possible, logical, or somehow justified

The problem is that people don't know where to begin when looking for the toe. I think if we begin with understanding human development, it will be a milestone for mankind. The answers are already in our biology, a part of us so we do in a sense somehow know it already.

[Rufus]

Originally Posted by dipayankar Anything which exists, needs to be understood. Without which we will never know how it will affect our lives. Only when we understand would we know of its significance..

dip

Unfortunately we cannot understand everything. We can try, but to understand the randomly generated forces in our lives would mean that we could predict everything right down to the millisecond and that would lead to omnipotence and ultimate disaster.

If we understood how why and when we stub our toes we could prevent it. If we understood the weather we could control it. If we understood sadness we could banish it.

No lows = no highs

....I'm just trying to explain to myself why my puter keeps screwing up ..maybe because I get such a thrill out of fixing it.

[Rufus]

Originally Posted by sillysally Ooo, freaky! As though we know the toe and don't at the same time.

We do Sal, ask michael

no one really likes the answer so we keep on looking and discussing

lotsa fun

and this way it never ends

[purveyor of knowledge]

Originally Posted by sillysally Isn't that happening already?

Yes, and that is why it is true that we live in a world of opposing views. I like the way you put it.

So positive time must exist alongside negative time since it is a world of opposing views, and determinable will. Negative time must commence after the big rip and positive time must commence after the big bang. Both are space/time inversion events, just like exceeding TSOL, but they are opposing views on the ironic circle of time.

Originally Posted by Silly Sally Ooo, freaky! As though we know the toe and don't at the same time.

Yes exactly! We know what we cannot know. Understanding and naivety are synonymous. Pride and humility are synonymous - the opposite of shame!

Originally Posted by Silly Sally Yeah, it does remind me of 1/0. Our brains, right and left contradict with reason and intuition.

Yes precisely! Good analogy. It's just like yin and yang, quantum mechanics and general relativity, wave/particle duality, foltsam and jetsam. The left hand circle intersecting with the right hand circle.

Originally Posted by silly sally The problem is that people don't know where to begin when looking for the toe. I think if we begin with understanding human development, it will be a milestone for mankind. The answers are already in our biology, a part of us so we do in a sense somehow know it already.

Well I know I started by thinking about the speed of light and what would happen when you exceeded it, and that got me to thinking about 1/0 and time and how the number line is really a number circle. So do you think it could be right silly sally? And if so do you think it was destined to arise out of our biology just like you said. Well, I guess you said it does.

[purveyor of knowledge]

Originally Posted by Rufus Unfortunately there will never be a theory that is accepted as being valid simply because validation beyond 'being convinced' is not possible. It's all just conjecture. Another problem is that a 'Theory' is just that and can never be a solution as to why or how we exist.

Rufus, I am trying to tell everyone, we can understanding everything, or cannot, depending pivotally and solely upon our definition of everything, and what we perceive to be possible or somehow justified in reality.

Validation is possible or impossible depending only on how you view it and what you do in life. You can only evaluate so far as you will experiment. Experimentation will validate everything including that which we are prone to think is impossible. Experimenting with magnetism will demonstrate all aspects of the TOE.

But you are right that in principle nothing is real. Perhaps only very convincing or perhaps based on what we believe. Perhaps that is the beauty of it and why we can know as much as we want, even including that which we do not, or have not yet wanted to.

[purveyor of knowledge]

Originally Posted by Rufus dip Unfortunately we cannot understand everything. We can try, but to understand the randomly generated forces in our lives would mean that we could predict everything right down to the millisecond and that would lead to omnipotence and ultimate disaster. If we understood how why and when we stub our toes we could prevent it. If we understood the weather we could control it. If we understood sadness we could banish it. No lows = no highs ....I'm just trying to explain to myself why my puter keeps screwing up ..maybe because I get such a thrill out of fixing it.

oh just thought I'd mention this since you brought it up, and I don't even know if you care or not or if I'm wasting my breath, but I'll tell you anyway in good hopes that you will know this. It is possible to massively influence the weather via the secret power of magnets which all of you do not understand the power of yet. I want to teach you but do you really want to know? You all have to learn sooner or later if this is really going to be the future that we live in you know. But then again, it's up to you. So yeah, for what it's worth, I'm telling you guys what you may or may not refuse to believe.

[purveyor of knowledge]

Originally Posted by Fluent Piffle On 'philosopher's stones' The Alchemists, in their search for 'gold', found only people desperate to be lead... And so, they all became politicians and heavy metalists. To this day, we are all still currency! pif.

Originally Posted by bottomlander Also something inspired from "Philosopher's Stone": I encountered the following 2 words: gold and goldbrick. At first, with my poor English knowledge, I think goldbrick is a brick of gold, much larger and valuable than just a gold coin. Luckily, I know that a responsible person should be cautious to use what terms during theorizing a new theory. After I checked the dictionary, goldbrick actually means "anything supposed to be valuable but which turns out to be worthless" and "a brick made to look like gold, sold by a swindler". This inspires something, e.g. The long-sought "Philosopher's Stone" has turned out to be a worthless "lead stone". P.S. As for another personal-sought "Simple Truth - Everything equals", will it turn out to be worthless also ! Best Regards. Bottomlander

Begging your pardon sirs, for I know you know not what you say, but I am not mistaken about the stone. You know it's funny how people believe that everything we're taught about history is true. Do you really take everything we're told without a grain of salt? You think we should be wary of somebody telling us that the sorcerer's stone exists, but what if the people telling us it doesn't are the ones who are actually misleading us in the dark, inadvertently or otherwise? What if the philosphers stone really does exist? Would you know?

What if reality was more amazing then we ever possibly imagined? how would you know? DO you know what you cannot?

Consider this, the philosphers stone DOES exist. I am telling you because I know. But that's not all! I will show you.

Even wikipedia itself says that the philosphers stone was supposed to have been dark ruby red. Now unless somebody just made that up, why would wikipedia say that? It's funny, after stating it's color the wikipedia goes on to say that the stone doesn't actually exist. Which is it wikipedia???

You have to ask yourself, what did the achemists get in a big fuss over? Why would they try to do something that doesn't work?

Upon actual experimentation, by deciphering and following the instructions left by the alchemists of yore, or through divine inspiration, we can indeed obtain the philospher's stone and as you can see in this picture wikipedia is actually right, it is indeed a dark ruby red. ha ha ha, who would have guessed it?



The philosphers stone is the stone that the builders refused. It is obtained from that "prima materia" which man does not understand the power of. Behold! It has become the head cornerstone!

Upon combustion with the fire of molten base metal the philosphers stone is transformed into an incorruptible metal. It will also transform the base metal itself. It will transform ten times it's own weight. It can be multiplied to transform 10,000 it's own weight. God is letting us rediscover this now because he/she wants us to destroy the economy and replace it with abundance thinking. It is part of the foretelling i tell you and why toe is needed.

Here is the philosophers stone after being partially transmuted. The bismuth is the untransmuted base-metal.

http://s2.photobucket.com/albums/y9/sect/maldonite1.jpg
http://s2.photobucket.com/albums/y9/sect/maldonite3.jpg

ok, so who's the purveyor of knowledge?