[Rufus]

By not wanting complete control of the entire universe, you have complete control of the universe.

Your world IS the entire Universe. Old Vedic principles teach that you are but a passenger on the train of life. Do you want to control everything?, well of course you do! That is only natural but a bit childish. You would forgo happenstance, you would give up the unexpected and know all. Is that want you want? No it isn't.

I just realized that if you give up the desire to control all.. you then control all.

[N0B0DY]

Best to leave the controlling to the universe, and apparently not the individual.

Good posting, Rufe.

[melanie]

Originally Posted by Rufus By not wanting complete control of the entire universe, you have complete control of the universe. Your world IS the entire Universe. Old Vedic principles teach that you are but a passenger on the train of life. Do you want to control everything?, well of course you do! That is only natural but a bit childish. You would forgo happenstance, you would give up the unexpected and know all. Is that want you want? No it isn't. I just realized that if you give up the desire to control all.. you then control all.

Nice post rufe, 'we' are the controlled, we are the passengers for sure.
'we' are the universe in miniature, and this universe operates all by itself,
it only appears that 'we' are in control.
So it's a paradox where 'we' are not controlling event's ..
and yet 'apparently' 'we' are.

To give up this apparent control, is the cessation of our anxieties and struggles,
when 'we' are witness to this arising, we can SEE the alchemy or transformation of the true reality.
WE are carried effortlessly, like the clouds drifting, appearing, and disappearing gone without a trace but always returning,
In that ever big blue expanse of sky.

= Rufus: You would forgo happenstance, you would give up the unexpected and know all. Is that want you want? No it isn't.

Very nicely put rufe, This is a powerful point you raise, so to extend on you're statement i would like to add this Quote below > >

All that you are attached to

All that you are attached to, all that you Love,
all that you know, someday will be gone.

Knowing this, and that the world is your mind
which you create, play in, and suffer from,
is known as discrimination.

Discriminate between the Real and the unreal.
The known is unreal and will come and go
so stay with the Unknown, the Unchanging, the Truth.

From: "This: Poetry and Prose of Dancing Emptiness"
By; H.W.L. Poonja (PAPAJI)1910 — 1997

[mkirkpatrick]

We all seek at times to control events,lives,we like to be the director,producer,actor,script
writer etc,and as long as everyone remembers their lines all will be well!However sooner
or later,and it is usually sooner it all comes crashing down, and "others" rebel at our attempts to control their lives.

We exist within natural universal law,which is perfect when fully understood,we have but
to just accept what is,and release the reigns to a Higher Power than our physical shell.


regards michael.

[Rufus]

Thankyou Melanie

I still can't actually see the post but I got your message in the email.

Rufe

Now I can see them!!!

Thankyou Nobody and Michael