[MJA]

Originally Posted by KiGs The enlightenment I think of seems much different from yours MJA. The way you describe it as would be more fitting as an answer to Tina's 'The Root of All Evil' thread. Maybe one day people will realize that their brains are limited, and that they should never remove doubt. Real understanding comes from knowing you cannot be certain. Preaching your kinds of ideas leads to a very violent society. I hope you can open your eyes to reason, rather than assuming your right about everything.

Dear KiGs,

So it is ok to pursue or quest for the theory or truth of everything, but impossible to possess it, because, truth is harmfull or violent to society, and that truth doesn't really exist?
And I should open my eyes to that?

Wow!

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MJA

[melanie]

''The one's who dance are thought insane by those who do not even hear the music''



Even the dead can dance.

[KiGs]

No no no. Please read my posts before making wild conclusions, it gets somewhat annoying having to repeat everything twice before you actually read it.

I never said truth is harmful to society. I said faith in the infallibility of your beliefs is harmful. You are not all-knowing, your ideas CAN be wrong, and acting like they can't is nothing but lying to yourself.

And I never said it was impossible to reach the truth. I was saying that you should keep doubt in order to process information logically. Removing doubt so you can accept an idea is the exact opposite of what you want to do. If you remove doubts on any idea it becomes true only to your own mind. If I have no doubts that a giant Flying Spaghetti Monster causes earthquakes then it would be 100% true to me, but that doesn't make it right.

There is a reason you should have doubts, and it is only when it is proven without a doubt, that you can start feeling comfortable with its certainty.

I have my own ideas, but I'm not going to go around belittling everyone who doesn't agree with me. I believe them because as far as I've heard they are the ones that make the most sense to me. But I wouldn't ever think that they are infallible, because I DON'T KNOW.

[melanie]

Don't seek the truth- Just drop your opinions.

Mind at Peace
When the mind is at peace,
the world too is at peace.
Nothing real, nothing absent.
Not holding on to reality,
not getting stuck in the void,
you are neither holy or wise,
just an ordinary fellow who has completed his work.

P'ang Yün


Truth has no counterpart,
......... It is motionless like the Void.