The TOE Paradox

[Guille]

I have modestly (....) and shortly (...) called this
"My demostration that the creation and existence of a TOE would lead to an infinite paradox"

A TOE means TOE, which is theory of everything, indeed, I don't know who gave that name first, but s/he was too exagerated. If a theory of everything would really be a theory of everything, then that theory (the theory of everything) should also be a theory of the theory of everything, which is part of the everything in it's name, here we get the first paradox, because how on earth would aa thoery be a theory of itself?...ex. It would be like using the word transport when trying to define transportation.
Secondly, we carry on, and the theory of everything should be a theory of itself, but that theory hould be a theory of that theory, and the same theory should be a theory of that theory, and there should be another theory to explain that theory...........................and it carries on for ever and ever, in never ending.

What do you think about it?

[Guille]

Has anybody with enough free time solved this paradox? It seems like most people haven't posted just because it's too good, but is wrong. Like zeno's paradox, because, we, of course, move, but, zeno's, is a well-based, well-stated, paradox, but, wrong.

[Masa Hiryuu]

I'm not sure where this leads to a Paradox. A TOE will just be a set of rules from witch all physical interactions must obey (which will theoretically explain thoughts, inteligence, if there is or is not free will ect...) and may explain why those rules exist (although I have doubts if a TOE will be able to explain why these rules are in place) and will probably explain why we are looking for the TOE and why we eventually discovered it... IF we do... but i dont se how this makes a TOE a TOE of its self. A TOE would more likely be a theory of the rules of everything. TOE leads to a Paradox of language but not a paradox of logic or function. mabee we should revise the word everything to mean everything but the word everything and then the language problem would be fixed!

But then mabee a TOE would explaine why language caused this pesky problem in the first place and then would it really be a paradox any more?

[Guille]

first, yes! When I created this paradox I was obviously thinking in languahge (mentioned in other posts of mine).


And, I think we don't need a TOE to explain why language takes us to paradoxes and is incorrect............::::

Nauture is imperfect. So, humans are imperfect. So, everything humans create, is imperfect. So, we created laguage, so language is imperfect. The best language we have, or better said, the most logical/correct one, is mathematics. With which we describe nature.

[Masa Hiryuu]

yes but as i stated in my reply a TOE should naturally resolve this paradox in language by explaining why the paradox exists so therefor there is no longer a paradox...

[juanpf]

well if the theory everything is in the name it talk about all the theory can be solved be one so everything is in as a whole.

but theory of theory it talking about it self and not adding the othier theory to make a hole.

[Guille]

yes but as i stated in my reply a TOE should naturally resolve this paradox in language by explaining why the paradox exists so therefor there is no longer a paradox...

wow, that was complicated.

understood, but, shoudln't a TOE be about physics? (maybe also chemistry and biology).

I think it would be good that there is a small part dedicated to the solution of the paradox and the paradox it self, and it's auther (Imagen to be mentioned in the TOE!!). but, I don't think you can solve this. it's just a stupid and wrong paraox, impossible to solve. like zeno's one.

[Masa Hiryuu]

Yes, but by explaining physics you can theoretically explain all interactions in the universe ex. Biology Chemestry and even Psychology

[Guille]

Yes, but by explaining physics you can theoretically explain all interactions in the universe ex. Biology Chemestry and even Psychology

aha, that IS true.

it seems we are progresing, so I willl post what I want to post:

You said it, Physics explains all the natural things. But all the things about humans? no. and language is a thing of humans, not of nature.

[Masa Hiryuu]

There is nothing in the universe that is not of nature...

It is impossable for anything to be unnatural