Vegetarianism is a Higher level View

[SB_UK]

Don't you think its just as cruel to eat plants as animals.

Presumably the fruits with seeds which're designed to be gobbled up and evacuated in a dump of Nitrogen (for reasons of dissemination) 'd be an obvious place to look for suitable foodstuffs for man.

Animals (unlike whichever fruit and veg meet this criterion)
generally (in marked contrast) run at the merest suggestion that they're about to be eaten -
- presumably evidence that they'd rather live.

My wife tells me that tomato plants growing in human sewage is a problem for sewers the world around
(bungs 'em up apparently) -
and yesterday I had the distinct pleasure of gazing at cherry pips within my doggy's nightly contribution to the N2 cycle -

and so'd suggest that cherries and tomatoes be listed as two food sources which are there to be eaten
- unlike the cheetah and tortoise.

[labelwench]

Some common "weeds" are highly nutritious, and also delicious.

Fireweed is the floral emblem of the Yukon and is one of the first plants to emerge in spring, thanks to an underground spreading root system.

The early tops are red-tipped, tiny closed fans of narrow lanced leaves. Picked when the plants are only inches high, they are very tender and mild flavored.

In the bowl beside me are the freshly washed tips, tossed with some cranberry sauce (homemade from low-bush plants that grow on the north facing slope nearby) and complemented with just a sprinkle of Feta cheese.

Absolutely delightful.......

A link from Wikipedia on Fireweed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fireweed


Regards,

Labelwench

[MJA]

[analog]

I assume this is supposed to trigger an emotional response. If so, I think it's working.......I suddenly have a craving for a steak or perhaps some veal......

In the words of the NCBA, "Beef: It's what's for dinner".....rotflmao.

[Graybeard]

I suddenly have the urge to search out the worst vegetarian restaurant in this city.

cool bananas ... greg

[austintorn@aol.com]

The cow has a map of North and South America on it, or else it is Africa.

[MJA]

If slaughterhouses had glass walls, everyone would be a vegetarian. --Paul McCartney

[melanie]

We are creators of our own reality.


"Regulation of diet, restricting it to sattvic food, taken in moderate quantities, is the best of all rules of conduct and the most conducive to the development of sattvic (pure) qualities of mind.
These in turn help one in the practice of Self-enquiry."

Slaughter houses and other places where beings are distressed and mistreated act as negative energy generators which malignly effect the Earth and it's inhabitants.
Although it is usually people that are particularly sensitive who sense such things everyone has some degree of awareness of them.

Just as mould spreads more easily in conditions that are dark and damp
so do malignant delusions and evil acts propagate themselves more virulently in areas of low frequency/negative energy.
It is a case of like attracts like.
The overall energy of the planet is made up of the combined energies of its' countless inhabitants.
Every good action lightens the atmosphere and makes the planet more heavenly.
Every bad action darkens the atmosphere and makes the planet more hell like.

The more evolved the life form the stronger the vibrations which are emitted.
So although all life is equally sacred, from the viewpoint of the esoteric sciences there is a kind of hierarchy in that plants, insects,
amphibians and fish are more unconscious and less potent when emanating good or bad vibrations than more complex mammals such as pigs, sheep, cows, monkeys and humans.

All things vibrate and effect/are effected by the vibrations around them.
According to the law of sympathetic vibration the nearer in frequency 2 things
are to each other the greater the effect they have on each other, dependent also on distance and amplitude etc of course.

For example imagine a state radio station operating on a particular frequency.
If a pirate radio station is set up on a very different frequency then you could still tune into the state radio station and listen to it clearly.
But if the pirate radio station was set up to broadcast on the same, or similar, frequency to the state radio station it would interfere with the state signal.

The first case, that of the pirate station transmitting on a very different frequency, illustrates the vegetarian diet. Although plants are alive and give off subtle vibrations they are of such a different level of consciousness that our natural human frequency is not disrupted.
However they do have a slight effect which is utilized by herbalists and practitioners of Ayruveda to heal and balance the human organism.

The second case, that of a pirate station transmitting on the same or similar frequency as the original state radio, illustrates the meat eaters diet.
The herd like mentality of much of humanity is unfortunately strengthened by their consumption of animal meat.
If the animal had been mistreated or suffered a lot of stress before death then these negative vibrations are also consumed by and malignantly effect the meat eater to some degree dependent on various factors.

Everyone of us, at any moment "inhabits" countless conceptual groups each of which subtly influence us to some degree.
For example when we smile we become a member of the group of all those who are smiling.
Smile now. One of the reasons that this makes you feel good is that by smiling you attune to the collective energy of the group: those who are smiling.
Of course in that group there are countless sub-groups, and sub-groups of sub-groups and so on like an infinite conceptual/vibrational fractal.
For example by smiling genuinely and kindly you benefit from a better sub group energy than if you had smiled sarcasticly.

All truly wise and compassionate beings are at least vegetarian or vegan.
So simply by being a vegetarian/vegan we become a member of the same conceptual group as these benevolent beings and we thus attune with their energy.

In the sub-group of the western nations, those who are vegetarian/vegans are often compassionate free thinkers with an interest in their health and self improvement.
By living similarly we benefit from the collective energy of that good group.
We also contribute towards the strength of that energy and so help to uplift and sanctify all life on this planet.

[MJA]

For as long as men massacre animals, they will kill each other. Indeed, he who sows the seed of murder and pain cannot reap joy and love. --Pythagoras (6th century BC)

[MJA]

Ovid
Metamorphoses
Book XV:60-142
Pythagoras’s Teachings: Vegetarianism

There was a man here, Pythagoras, a Samian by birth, who had fled Samos and its rulers, and, hating their tyranny, was living in voluntary exile. Though the gods were far away, he visited their region of the sky, in his mind, and what nature denied to human vision he enjoyed with his inner eye. When he had considered every subject, through concentrated thought, he communicated it widely in public, teaching the silent crowds, who listened in wonder to his words, concerning the origin of the vast universe, and of the causes of things; and what the physical world is; what the gods are; where the snows arise; what the origin of lightning is; whether Jupiter, or the storm-winds, thunder from colliding clouds; what shakes the earth; by what laws the stars move; and whatever else is hidden; and he was the first to denounce the serving of animal flesh at table; the first voice, wise but not believed in, to say, for example, in words like these :
‘Human beings, stop desecrating your bodies with impious foodstuffs. There are crops; there are apples weighing down the branches; and ripening grapes on the vines; there are flavoursome herbs; and those that can be rendered mild and gentle over the flames; and you do not lack flowing milk; or honey fragrant from the flowering thyme. The earth, prodigal of its wealth, supplies you with gentle sustenance, and offers you food without killing or shedding blood.
Flesh satisfies the wild beast’s hunger, though not all of them, since horses, sheep and cattle live on grasses, but those that are wild and savage: Armenian tigers, raging lions, and wolves and bears, enjoy food wet with blood. Oh, how wrong it is for flesh to be made from flesh; for a greedy body to fatten, by swallowing another body; for one creature to live by the death of another creature! So amongst such riches, that earth, the greatest of mothers, yields, you are not happy unless you tear, with cruel teeth, at pitiful wounds, recalling Cyclops’s practice, and you cannot satisfy your voracious appetite, and your restless hunger, unless you destroy other life!
But that former age, that we call golden, was happy with the fruit from the trees, and the herbs the earth produced, and did not defile its lips with blood. Then birds winged their way through the air in safety, and hares wandered, unafraid, among the fields, and its own gullibility did not hook the fish: all was free from trickery, and fearless of any guile, and filled with peace. But once someone, whoever he was, the author of something unfitting, envied the lion’s prey, and stuffed his greedy belly with fleshy food, he paved the way for crime. It may be that, from the first, weapons were warm and bloodstained from the killing of wild beasts, but that would have been enough: I admit that creatures that seek our destruction may be killed without it being a sin, but while they may be killed, they still should not be eaten.
From that, the wickedness spread further, and it is thought that the pig was first considered to merit slaughter because it rooted up the seeds with its broad snout, and destroyed all hope of harvest. The goat was led to death, at the avenging altar, for browsing the vines of Bacchus. These two suffered for their crimes! What did you sheep do, tranquil flocks, born to serve man, who bring us sweet milk in full udders, who give us your wool to make soft clothing, who give us more by your life than you grant us by dying? What have the oxen done, without guile or deceit, harmless, simple, born to endure labour?
He is truly thankless, and not worthy of the gift of corn, who could, in a moment, remove the weight of the curved plough, and kill his labourer, striking that work-worn neck with his axe, that has helped turn the hard earth as many times as the earth yielded harvest. It is not enough to have committed such wickedness: they involve the gods in crime, and believe that the gods above delight in the slaughter of suffering oxen! A victim of outstanding beauty, and without blemish (since to be pleasing is harmful), distinguished by sacrificial ribbons and gold, is positioned in front of the altar, and listens, unknowingly, to the prayers, and sees the corn it has laboured to produce, scattered between its horns, and, struck down, stains with blood those knives that it has already caught sight of, perhaps, reflected in the clear water.
Immediately they inspect the lungs, ripped from the still-living chest, and from them find out the will of the gods. On this (so great is man’s hunger for forbidden food) you feed, O human race! Do not, I beg you, and concentrate your minds on my admonitions! When you place the flesh of slaughtered cattle in your mouths, know and feel, that you are devouring your fellow-creature.’

Bk XV:453-478 Pythagoras’s Teachings:The Sanctity of Life

‘Now (lest I stray too far off course, my horses forgetting to aim towards their goal), the heavens, and whatever is under them, change their form, and the earth, and whatever is within it. We, as well, who are a part of the universe, because we are not merely flesh, but in truth, winged spirits, and can enter into the family of wild creatures, and be imprisoned in the minds of animals.
We should allow those beings to live in safety, and honour, that the spirits of our parents, or brothers, or those joined to us by some other bond, certainly human, might have inhabited: and not fill our bellies as if at a Thyestean feast! What evil they contrive, how impiously they prepare to shed human blood itself, who rip at a calf’s throat with the knife, and listen unmoved to its bleating, or can kill a kid to eat, that cries like a child, or feed on a bird, that they themselves have fed! How far does that fall short of actual murder? Where does the way lead on from there?
Let the ox plough, or owe his death to old age: let the sheep yield wool, to protect against the chill north wind: let the she-goats give you full udders for milking! Have done with nets and traps, snares and the arts of deception! Do not trick the birds with limed twigs, or imprison the deer, scaring them with feathered ropes, or hide barbed hooks in treacherous bait. Kill them, if they harm you, but even then let killing be enough. Let your mouth be free of their blood, enjoy milder food!