Challenge: A Protheory Based Question

[Tina]

Name anything that can be
explained or answered
WITHOUT the dynamics between the concepts of Positive - Negative - Neutral.

It's not as easy as it sounds!

(Question inspired by Profpat - The Accountant )

[austintorn@aol.com]

Only left-handed [anti] [negative] neutrinos exist in our universe. Although I can’t explain why the symmetry has been broken, the positive Austino and the neutral Neutralino only exist on ToeQuest.

Hail to the return of Tina!

[Tina]

Only left-handed [anti] [negative] neutrinos exist in our universe. Although I can’t explain why the symmetry has been broken, the positive Austino and the neutral Neutralino only exist on ToeQuest.

Hail to the return of Tina!

Hail Austin

What's a bleeping neutrino

But just like electrons are negative - they are negative within the dynamic between positive & neutral force...bearing in mind that "negative" in this context simply means "not positive".....and neutral means "not positive and not negative - but something else"

Oh gosh, golly gosh...physics is really going to bring me undone here

[austintorn@aol.com]

How about we say that a condition has an [arbritrary] positive, such as ‘up’. Then its opposite is ‘down’, even if there are no such cases (but the case is possible. Neutral would either be both up and down at the same time (quantum physics can do this) or neither (midway in the classical world), which may be the same aspect of the quantum having it be neither.

So, does this prove that the tri-state must always be so? Is there anything that doesn’t have an opposite? Perhaps even the lack of something could serve as its opposite if it has to, but then what would be the neutral?

Bleeping neutrinos are among the smallest entities. There are zillions going through you right now without even touching your insides or making any holes. Better check for leaks anyway.

[Tina]

[SIZE="2"]How about we say that a condition has an [arbritrary] positive, such as ‘up’. Then its opposite is ‘down’, even if there are no such cases (but the case is possible. Neutral would either be both up and down at the same time (quantum physics can do this) or neither (midway in the classical world), which may be the same aspect of the quantum having it be neither.

The situation you describe here can have its point of superposition - which I would describe as neither up nor down - like Schrodinger's cat - neither dead nor alive....this would be the Neutral point in an arbitrary middle.

So, does this prove that the tri-state must always be so? Is there anything that doesn’t have an opposite? Perhaps even the lack of something could serve as its opposite if it has to, but then what would be the neutral?

Yes - the tri-state is implicit in all. In regards to opposites - forget that word....think in terms of true Negation i.e.

X or Not X
and Neutral as Not( X) and Not (Not X)

[austintorn@aol.com]

How about ‘helping’ being X, and so then NOT X is not helping. Neutral is then neither helping nor not helping (possibly being lazy, busy, just feeling neutral or unable to help, but none of these are overtly for helping or against helping). How then would hindering fit in, if it does—or should I really really forget about opposites?

[Tina]

How about ‘helping’ being X, and so then NOT X is not helping. Neutral is then neither helping nor not helping....

Scenario: Austin offers to help by washing up! But he drops half the dishes, breaking them and water is splashing everywhere..... His beloved say's to him "Darling you are more of than hinderance than a help". I think you get the picture.

So the truth of the situation is:

Your were not actually helping but by the same token you were not actually (not helping)

Your efforts were neutral in regard to helping.

= -(X) + -(-X)
= -X + X
= 0

[Profpat]

" How do you track a particle like the ethereal neutrino, a particle with no electric charge, tiny (perhaps zero) mass and an inherent reluctance to interact? "

From Oak Ridge Labs.

Austin what is anti negative? Positive? If the neutrino had charge it would interact with the proton or electron, which it doesn't.

Best,

Pat

[Tina]

" How do you track a particle like the ethereal neutrino, a particle with no electric charge, tiny (perhaps zero) mass and an inherent reluctance to interact? "

From Oak Ridge Labs.

Austin what is anti negative? Positive? If the neutrino had charge it would interact with the proton or electron, which it doesn't.

Pat - are you suggesting Austin may not be the best person to enlighten me about Neutrinos.

That's OK - I've got Wikipedia which interestingly says:

The existence of a neutrino mass strongly suggests the existence of a tiny neutrino magnetic moment[6] of the order of 10 − 19 Bohr magneton allowing the possibility that neutrinos may interact electromagnetically as well.

[Profpat]

Pat - are you suggesting Austin may not be the best person to enlighten me about Neutrinos.

That's OK - I've got Wikipedia which interestingly says:

The existence of a neutrino mass strongly suggests the existence of a tiny neutrino magnetic moment[6] of the order of 10 − 19 Bohr magneton allowing the possibility that neutrinos may interact electromagnetically as well.

Hi Tina;

We accountants round our numbers. So .00000000000000000001, we would round to zero 0 LOL It makes thing so much easier. Also there is a Great Big SUGGESTS and MAY in that statement.

I recently discovered while reseaching Dr. Feynman, that the speed of light is not an absolute speed rather an average speed. Some photons may go a little faster than that average, some a bit slower. Additionally, I was surprised to learn that light doesn't travel in a straight line. Again it may go up sometimes or down or to the left or right, but in the end it all averages out to a straight line. I guerss there is no ABSOLUTE straight line.

I would never suggest that Austin is not the best man for anything Tina. Now I have a double negative in that sentence, similar to Austin's anti negative.

Best,

Pat