Unpeaceful NonCoexistence of Believers and Scientists? How Come, or Not?

[austintorn@aol.com]

Are you not able to look into the context of words and wonder why someone used specific words in transcribing. — Mikal

I am not Abel, since we are all Cain's children, but, really, don't you think that they have to say 'said' about someone communicating, even if he is not a someone 'person'.


I am not making God a person because God is not in the physical! — Mikal

This is just a statement and so it can't go anywhere, even with the help of the exclamation point.


Leskey, you are on target. The senses stuff was mostly for SteveA (Steve Austin) to notice.


(I guess the guy who started a similar thread gave up, for whatever reason; he also didn't say very much at all.)

[melanie]

I am not making God a person because God is not in the physical! However, I do believe based on my own experience that from the expansion of our own subjective mentality there is a link to know the nature of God...it is experiential!!

There is no other to have 'experience'
God alone experiences 'me'... (whichever 'me' God seems to be)

Mikal Mel nor Leskey nor any 'me' ever experiences 'God' and God is not other than this.

When this is understood by no-one all will be well.

My NDE occurred without senses...but it was an 'experience' complete with 'cognition.'

''Unpeaceful NonCoexistence of Believers and Scientists?''
The above statement is totally acceptable and is all inclusive in THIS

IT'S what's KNOWN as the dream of separation dreaming difference where there is none.....including this.

[Mikal]

Are you not able to look into the context of words and wonder why someone used specific words in transcribing. — Mikal

I am not Abel, since we are all Cain's children, but, really, don't you think that they have to say 'said' about someone communicating, even if he is not a someone 'person'.


I am not making God a person because God is not in the physical! — Mikal

This is just a statement and so it can't go anywhere, even with the help of the exclamation point.


Leskey, you are on target. The senses stuff was mostly for SteveA (Steve Austin) to notice.


(I guess the guy who started a similar thread gave up, for whatever reason; he also didn't say very much at all.)

I suppose Austin that what intrigues me is different as to what intrigues you.

I don't suppose they had to say the word 'SAID', they could have just went on saying...'God created.' The change in context intrigued me.

Yes I made a statement! I am free in my outer life and I am free in my inner life. The barriers in my perception were dismantled and destructured. Surely you can live with that peacefully if I can!!

Regards Mikal

[Mikal]

There is no other to have 'experience'
God alone experiences 'me'... (whichever 'me' God seems to be)

Mikal Mel nor Leskey nor any 'me' ever experiences 'God' and God is not other than this.

When this is understood by no-one all will be well.





''Unpeaceful NonCoexistence of Believers and Scientists?''
The above statement is totally acceptable and is all inclusive in THIS

IT'S what's KNOWN as the dream of separation dreaming difference where there is none.....including this.

Mel I respect 'your statements' as how you perceive things but you cannot tell me about my experience as I cannot tell you about yours. You are simply not in my aspect of the experiential and vice versa.

As I feel we are a 'soul' I would safely assume that my lessons or what I am to grasp and learn in this lifetime would possibly not be the same as yours. I respect that and come from the view that in that sense 'I am ok and you are ok.'

Only I can 'word' my experience as only you can 'word' yours!


Regards Mikal

[melanie]

Mel I respect 'your statements' as how you perceive things but you cannot tell me about my experience as I cannot tell you about yours. You are simply not in my aspect of the experiential and vice versa.

As I feel we are a 'soul' I would safely assume that my lessons or what I am to grasp and learn in this lifetime would possibly not be the same as yours. I respect that and come from the view that in that sense 'I am ok and you are ok.'

Only I can 'word' my experience as only you can 'word' yours!


Regards Mikal

I totally respect your word Mikal.

When we hit the reply button, it may feel or look as if the reply is a correction, but its all just chatter,
different ways of looking at it all, different ways of associating, comprehending, expressing.



It's just what's happening here, it has no other purpose, it never did.

[melanie]

There is no 'you' or 'me' except in the dream of separation.

Just the one love in action dreaming difference where there is none.

There is only consciousness alone. All One.


Consciousness is not different from the content of consciousness.

No "thing" precedes consciousness. Consciousness is all ''things''.

[Mikal]

I understand Mel that you are speaking and making statements pertinent only to your own perception of things. This is not to say these statements apply to me....I have my own conscious experience and fully realize that it is not like someone else's. I respect we are different and here about different things, reasons and even issues.

I would dare to say that 'purpose' being psychological energy has elements where it is the drive to search and the wavering, restless creative power driving life and it would be best not to deter or repress this energy we call purpose.

Regards Mikal

[Mikal]

Sorry I have not been able to 'thank'...no button and if I refresh the page I am still not getting a thanks button...

Regards Mikal

[melanie]

I understand Mel that you are speaking and making statements pertinent only to your own perception of things. This is not to say these statements apply to me....I have my own conscious experience and fully realize that it is not like someone else's. I respect we are different and here about different things, reasons and even issues.

There are infinite ways in which perception perceives itself.

However, anything perceived itself cannot perceive.

For that would require a 'perceiver' therefore there is only perception perceiving.

[Mikal]

Mel when I had my NDE, I realized that there is a 'perceiver' in me. I feel that is my soul and that is about the only way I can explain it to you. If you have not had that experience, I respect the fact that you may struggle with my way of seeing things.


Regards Mikal