You've likely had some experience playing the fiddle as well and I'm not going to assume my skills are particularly adept, but at a minimum the practice session is enjoyable(Hangover incoming in 5, 4, 3, ... LOL)
Sounds like you had a good evening and a bit of entertaining break from the workweek. I remember that song you posted about graduating from this and that and then entering such and such in order to later work doing odds and ends, that progress into ... etc.
Now here's an interesting thought I had last night - fundamentally it would seem the most logical thing the universe could be doing would be counting (and counting itself is already insanity beyond magic! Since when does the number 1 actually mean 2 ... or 3 or any other "random" number? People are talking crazy and should stop this counting non-sense!)
But if it's counting (not necessarily the only possibility, but for a united singular deterministic structure to exist with self-determined growth, counting seems to be the only natural option), then what/how is it counting and toward what - or what could it be accumulating other than (at least relative to self-determinable properties) unknowns?
If that fundamental volume is increasing and represented as diverse properties of experience, then it would seem there should be some manner of evaluating this and finding a growth beyond the simple fact that "time passes" and this growth could be reflected in many ways.
I'd say the most important way such a growth should exist as something persistent over time would be relative to ones values ... are things getting better or worse. I gave that example of the magnetic balls ... imagine how one might organize a growing set into an increasing number of dimensions. At times, the length in some dimensions could decrease, but overall, lengths in all dimensions would increase over time, though potentially quite erratically along individual dimensions.
... still working on ideas, but it's quite an interesting picture with lots of complex twists and turns, but wouldn't it be interesting if there was a way to not only do this:
Originally Posted by Lorrina
... but to also do that in an ideal manner that retains all values in a purely increasing manner over time?
If it's not a precise/logical transformation, then something's lost along the way and that causes problems. An element of creativity is involved as well (nothing specific predetermines the direction of growth - "direction" is multidimensional and depends upon properties in inherent within the structure - such as ones particularly vantage point from within it). It's also not specifically 3 dimensional ... adding a single unit to an infinite set (and from a finite perspective we could equate infinity with growth) provides an infinite possible of selections as to the relation of that element within the set (once again, from a finite perspective that equates with an infinite/growing (though infinitesimal relative to the entire structure) number of possible influences/choices - of potentially increasing effectivety relative to individual values ... can we get that simulataneous as well? ... yes another interesting question - if it's all a predetermined selection, then what timeline are we on?).
My main comment here is simply that from one perspective, it's infinite/growing in one aspect alone. For other (higher dimensional) perspectives, it can be a chaotically varying set of properties in potentially unlimited numbers of dimensions and associated individual values.
There could be a way of counting (in manners closely related to areas of science/logic/mathematics) that helps clarify the correlations between these and properties of experience (perceptions, emotions, knowledge, etc.) as well as ways to see free will as existing in terms of influences distributed across time in influence - consciousness could be seen similar to the interface between these and where the 'degrees of freedom' are ... though it could be informationally impossible to precisely track the 'leading edge' of that ... on the other hand, the fact that there's an ability to conceive of and extrapolate upon such a state/property/growth etc. would at least seem to provide evidence that 'something's there' ... though specifically where that is, isn't really definable ... could be anywhere - a non-Newtonian discrete/quantum discontinuity.
Sometimes properties can repeat, but taken within different contexts, that can still be 'forward' motion
Well, it looks like the dimension of how much free time I have available to continue chatting in the pub has just collapsed (for now) and I've got to start getting ready for work.
Catch you up the trail a piece![]()


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