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    Why do we need to discover a TOE?

    Hello fearless ToeQuester's: I'm in the pub today enjoying an artificial glass of wine
    and to discuss why humans feel the need to discover a TOE

    Most part of my quest for a TOE is to enjoy the absurdism of conceptualizing the non-conceptual.

    Cheers! .......hmm, that was tasty, now where was i, ah yes, why do we need to discover a TOE?

    and what exactly are we going to do with it once we've got it?

    Any one know?

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    Re: Why do we need to discover a TOE?

    In my opinion, there is no 'need' to discover the TOE, and yet there exists within many with whom I have spoken, an unfullfilled desire that does not lend itself to naming, as it is not of the flesh and earthly pleasures, nor even of the mind and intellectual pursuit.

    It is a deeply felt longing, is the best word I can arrive at, for a sense of the purpose of our existence.

    The sense of magnitude is of a scope that we call it EVERYTHING, and because we are still working in the define it can only yet be called a THEORY, and thus, in my simple thought, is born a THEORY OF EVERYTHING.

    Whether we may find it or not is of less import than that we have the opportunity of the journey, for without this option, the experience of life would hold no meaning for some.

    Not all persons may be of accord on this matter.
    So many paths to the same destination,
    would, but I could, experience them all...

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    Re: Why do we need to discover a TOE?

    Dear Mel

    The reason your sitting in a pub, enjoying a glass of wine is because we already have sufficient knowledge of a TOE to be able to manipulate our environment to produce such a lifestyle.

    Otherwise we would be sitting outside a rough shelter/cave sucking on fermented grapes .... lol

    cool bananas ... greg
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    ... graffiti on Tavern wall, Pompeii, circa AD 70.

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    Re: Why do we need to discover a TOE?

    So that, "why" wont be an unaswerable question
    "Energy in search of source to achieve reaction"

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    Re: Why do we need to discover a TOE?

    Is Knowledge of Essence Even Important?

    Even though we seem
    To ‘know’ our essence of matter,
    Is this part really that important?


    Yes, in a way, perhaps,
    For some sense about
    The human condition;

    But, after that, “no”—
    For, during much or all of our living,
    We are thrust into this life
    And so we must deal with it,
    And thus live it first and foremost,
    That needing our primary attention,
    Making it “precede”, in importance,
    Any exact knowing of the essence.

    Is the ‘possible’ still arising
    And forming reality instant by instant?


    Perhaps, but it doesn’t matter,
    For that is just the mechanism;
    The more important content
    Is of the message of our reality,
    Being that which we receive
    As life from what is beneath it.

    Is matter a holy thing?

    No, it just is what it is.

    Do we go away
    And then return here, recycled?


    Yes, but you would not be
    You again as you were.

    What should we really do
    About all this existence?


    Well, live it;
    Don’t just merely exist!

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    Re: Why do we need to discover a TOE?

    Why do we need a toe?

    Because, secretly ... people are looking for the foot prints of god in the sands of time. Alot of them walking around on an isolated island beach. The shores of which are golden. Some of them awaken, to discovering they have only been tracing their own. Some keep doing it. Others follow another set of tracks.
    "I act like you act, I do what you do, but I don’t know, what it’s like to be you. What consciousness is, I ain’t got a clue. I got the Zombie Blues!"

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    Re: Why do we need to discover a TOE?

    Quote Originally Posted by austintorn@aol.com View Post
    Is Knowledge of Essence Even Important?

    Even though we seem
    To ‘know’ our essence of matter,
    Is this part really that important?


    Yes, in a way, perhaps,
    For some sense about
    The human condition;
    The nature of the human condition is ARTificial

    ART is natural.
    Is the ‘possible’ still arising
    And forming reality instant by instant?
    Life cannot even miss a single blade of grass because the rest of the universe would disappear in it's lack of appearance.

    Is matter a holy thing?

    No, it just is what it is.
    Thoughts of matter being a 'holy thing' is an all inclusive integral part of this IS-ness

    Thoughts weave what Is into time, and a story, any conceptualising of it is simply the story of it.

    What is, is what is.

    Do we go away
    And then return here, recycled?


    Yes, but you would not be
    You again as you were.
    There is no 'we' to go anywhere, except within the dream of separation.
    There is only this immediate self shining, self evident, IS-ness ONE-ness Beingness Presence... ONE WITHOUT A SECOND here NOW

    What should we really do
    About all this existence?


    Well, live it;
    'we' don't do anything, IT does us / lives us.



    Nothing really happens.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVCrD...next=1&index=6

    The power of the Thought.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuwUI...eature=related

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    Re: Why do we need to discover a TOE?

    Quote Originally Posted by labelwench View Post


    It is a deeply felt longing, is the best word I can arrive at, for a sense of the purpose of our existence.
    This unfulfilled desire for a sense of purpose is innate within the human sentient condition,
    however, it is false,and is the cause of all our suffering and misery.
    Love, is already unconditional... you are Love.

    To seek love and purpose, is to feel separated, and as our sense of separation becomes more and more acute,
    we feel an insatiable hunger to belong.But you are already THAT what you are looking for.

    Nervousness, Anxiety & Fear

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZaCn...eature=related


    You are already THAT

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsrBQ...eature=related

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    Re: Why do we need to discover a TOE?

    Quote Originally Posted by Meem View Post
    Why do we need a toe?

    Because, secretly ... people are looking for the foot prints of god in the sands of time. Alot of them walking around on an isolated island beach. The shores of which are golden. Some of them awaken, to discovering they have only been tracing their own. Some keep doing it. Others follow another set of tracks.
    Well said.

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    Re: Why do we need to discover a TOE?

    Quote Originally Posted by ggullet View Post
    So that, "why" wont be an unaswerable question
    Why?

    Why not?

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