The value of Faith

[Profpat]

I'm sure we are all familiar with our global economic meltdown. I read where the latest estimate for the USA alone is 11 trillion dollars loss of value in the housing market and stock market.

This loss of value essentially was caused by corporate greed followed by the loss of faith consumers had in these markets.

I remember Lloyd and I having a debate as to the value of faith. He thought it was worthless. Rather I think the value of ethics and faith is priceless.

Your thoughts?

Best,

Pat

[Mikal]

The value of ethics and faith is the hard won internal battle that grows internal strength to the kind of massive boundaries we need to stand strong in the face of life's precarious nature to reflect back to us our countless errors committed along the way...ethics allows us to fix our ways more justly and faith allows us to face even the worst of the worst....absolutely no price tag can be affixed to this....


Mikal

[Graybeard]

I remember Lloyd and I having a debate as to the value of faith. He thought it was worthless. I think the value of faith is priceless.

Your thoughts?

He was right ... your wrong.

(O ye of little money ..... lol)

cool bananas ... greg

[dolly]

IMHO placing a value on faith and ethics detracts us from it's purity in nature and character.

PEACE dolly

[austintorn@aol.com]

Ethics is beyond value; faith in the real is priceless; faith in a flawed invisible 'concept of good' is worthless, sometimes evil in that others not for it are declared to be such.

[Profpat]

He was right ... your wrong.

(O ye of little money ..... lol)

cool bananas ... greg

Hi Greg;

I'm right you are wrong.

Best,

Pat

P.S What's with the double twisted evil icon. Is there something we need to communicate with words Greg?

[Profpat]

For those of you who have problems with the definition of value, please see #3 and 4 under noun and #2 under verb. This is your word of the day. I didn't say faith was worth 11 trillion dollars I said it was priceless. You can't put a dollar value on faith I was trying to display that our entire economic system is based on faith.

val·ue (vly) KEY

NOUN:

1. An amount, as of goods, services, or money, considered to be a fair and suitable equivalent for something else; a fair price or return.
2. Monetary or material worth: the fluctuating value of gold and silver.
3. Worth in usefulness or importance to the possessor; utility or merit: the value of an education.
4. A principle, standard, or quality considered worthwhile or desirable: "The speech was a summons back to the patrician values of restraint and responsibility" (Jonathan Alter).
5. Precise meaning or import, as of a word.
6. Mathematics An assigned or calculated numerical quantity.
7. Music The relative duration of a tone or rest.
8. The relative darkness or lightness of a color. See Table at color.
9. Linguistics The sound quality of a letter or diphthong.
10. One of a series of specified values: issued a stamp of new value.

TRANSITIVE VERB:
val·ued , val·u·ing , val·ues

1. To determine or estimate the worth or value of; appraise.
2. To regard highly; esteem. See Synonyms at appreciate.
3. To rate according to relative estimate of worth or desirability; evaluate: valued health above money.
4. To assign a value to (a unit of currency, for example).

[Profpat]

And this definition just for you Greg:

faith   /feɪθ/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [feyth] Show IPA
–noun 1.confidence or trust in a person or thing: faith in another's ability. 2.belief that is not based on proof: He had faith that the hypothesis would be substantiated by fact. 3.belief in God or in the doctrines or teachings of religion: the firm faith of the Pilgrims. 4.belief in anything, as a code of ethics, standards of merit, etc.: to be of the same faith with someone concerning honesty. 5.a system of religious belief: the Christian faith; the Jewish faith. 6.the obligation of loyalty or fidelity to a person, promise, engagement, etc.: Failure to appear would be breaking faith. 7.the observance of this obligation; fidelity to one's promise, oath, allegiance, etc.: He was the only one who proved his faith during our recent troubles. 8.Christian Theology. the trust in God and in His promises as made through Christ and the Scriptures by which humans are justified or saved.
—Idiom 9.in faith, in truth; indeed: In faith, he is a fine lad.

Truly, if you don't have faith in at least yourself Greg, and if you don't think that has value, then you have my pity.

[Profpat]

pit·y (pt) KEY

NOUN:
pl. pit·ies

1. Sympathy and sorrow aroused by the misfortune or suffering of another.
2. A matter of regret: It's a pity she can't attend the reception.

OR: It's a pity that Greg thinks faith is worthless.

[Profpat]

And now these three remain: faith, hope and love.

And so I submit to you dear reader, that these three are NOT worthless but priceless, with GREAT VALUE.