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    Nobody Home

    Your Current State


    Take a moment to be aware of your current state.
    Now, imagine that yesterday you died.
    You are exactly where you are right now, only you are dead.
    Nothing has changed, except that you are dead.
    Everything that you do from here on out is the action of a dead person -- it means nothing.
    Try as you might, your actions have no effect.
    Your touch is that of a ghost, your mightiest efforts like a soft breeze.

    Your friends call your name, but as you reach out to them, you see that they too are ghosts.
    All that you hold dear, is like a storybook -- it existed, but was made to be set aside.
    In all the universe, there is only you.
    Utterly powerless to even cast a shadow upon a wall.
    You are dead, yet you feel alive.

    A Light shines through your form, animating your thought.
    Listen for your ceasing to be, it is calling.
    Let the ghost cry for the loss of it's self -- tears of Truth to set it free.
    You died the day you were born.

    How long will you wait to go Home?





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    Re: Nobody Home

    Quote Originally Posted by melanie View Post
    Try as you might, your actions have no effect.
    Cycling without a chain on one's bike - a frenetic bout of activity prior to collapsing over onto one or t'other side.

    Similarly - that feeling of using words to describe an idea which one feels real strongly about -
    - to bemused looks of confusion punctuated with the occasional growl of discontent from the other's stomach.

    From the perspective of proper communication using words
    - we are ghosts.

    No mechanism for ensuring sense is conveyed.

    We inflate the number of words and senses which we may hang off the same set of words -
    - and problems (understandably) ensue

    - luckily though
    ToE to the rescue

    - because it's really all the same.

    ~*~

    The mind,
    like the 9 month period of gestation which gives rise to body
    -
    after 35 years of education or so -
    and when in duality with high quality squeeze
    - gives rise
    in all of our cases (soon)
    - to the same (final form) structure of {class model, model, parent, parental structure}

    How do we know?
    We know
    - because this is the fixed pattern of (barcode of) evolution -

    - the physical structure of baby and virtual structure of mind bear the same underlying structures
    - the same generalized structure
    - albeit on different abstraction layers.

    The mind is on a higher abstraction layer to the body
    (occurs after, is built on top of, is a factor greater)

    - in the case of body of baby the parental model is a two legged, two armed, one headed male or female (dual) baby
    - with some superficial 'individualizing' features (which we dwell upon (in our own mind) whilst we bond)

    - there really aren't so many physical differences (no matter how we feel) from baby to baby
    - the difference rests in the structural changes which occur in the EM profile
    - structural changes in baby's EM profile
    - changes in Electromagnetic profile which come with bonding -

    bonding -> magnetic attraction -> magnetization -> unique pairing absolutely independent of physical appearance)

    - magnetization
    - incidentally -
    the reason why one's wife or husband becomes the only person for her or his husband or wife.

    - in the case of mind of man, it's the same underlying logical structure (two legged > , two armed <, one headed o male or female (dual) baby)

    .. <- constipated
    .\./
    ./
    .\

    .. <- crying
    .\./
    ./
    .\

    ==

    <- green squiggly

    == ==

    concentrating upon the funny peculiar collar thingy -
    the funny peculiar collar thingy (which we also see on trees)
    - as the transition from linear (trunk) to radial (crown)
    ~ie~
    - to <

    -< (the front (or back) half of the pantomime mule from above)

    The parental construct to all 'child' products of evolution is the same -
    is the same -
    - bears the structure of Feynmann diagram
    (- structure of the black hole)
    (- moving structure of water on either side of a plug hole as water everts its way on through).

    ~*~

    The objects (children of Zion)
    - wikiP/Zion
    'God dwells among his chosen people'

    'his chosen people' == all people

    ... one can't have it both ways -

    Genesis 1:27
    'So God created man in his own image'

    God created all man in his own image
    - 'his chosen people' are all people
    - where all people (all evolutionary structures) are an instantiation of the same basic structure
    (the structure of the Feynmann diagram from above)
    - of the same basic structure -
    which we can imagine to be the reflection of God -

    - the reflection of God as the exact same
    (the structure of the Feynmann diagram from above)
    repeating structure which forms our coherent
    (to our senses)
    Universe of action.
    [ nothing other than killing money the law the savage within (original sin) matters ]

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    Re: Nobody Home


    Quote Originally Posted by M
    Try as you might, your actions have no effect.
    Everything we know is a synchrony between component parts - there's no mechanism for actual 'real' association -

    the two small pieces of string can't actually stick together into one continuous length -
    there is no small piece of string -
    only effectively -

    the process of two really small waves achieving synchrony and doing an (accordingly) -
    - impression of what we're taught of
    is constructive interference
    is the mechanism here.

    What we call constructive interference is a tug of war competition where the identical twin of the two individuals who're competing in a one-on-one tug of war competition join to help their respective brothers in what then becomes a 'two-on-two'
    - and where we have been modelling the twins (actually two people) -
    - as just one person with twice the strength
    - which is fine unless we (in the process of forming the model) -
    forget
    that the model is (just) a (simplifying) model -
    - and that
    (in truth)
    there're still two people there.

    ~*~

    The reason why sometimes when we touch -
    we don't
    - no matter how real it feels

    - however -
    the notion of one underlying substrate which permeates 'under the surface' -
    confuses this idea yet further through suggestion that 'separateness' is an illusion -
    one connected whole -

    - how can we touch unless we're separate to begin with?

    'Spooky action at a distance' refers to interconnectedness in the layer of unstructure upon which structure is built.

    The notion of Separateness is simply a misleading artefact of structure -
    one which optimization of physical structure required
    - which completion of mental structure dispels.
    [ nothing other than killing money the law the savage within (original sin) matters ]

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    Re: Nobody Home

    Quote Originally Posted by SB_UK View Post
    God created all man in his own image

    - 'his chosen people' are

    all people
    - where all people (all evolutionary structures) are an instantiation of the same basic structure
    (the structure of the Feynmann diagram from above)
    - of the same basic structure -
    which we can imagine to be the reflection of God -

    - the reflection of God as the exact same
    (the structure of the Feynmann diagram from above)
    repeating structure which forms our coherent
    (to our senses)
    Universe of action.
    Good post.
    ~ ~

    Image -- imagination.
    God -- concept / idea / reflection
    Reflection -- mirage anagram of image
    Choices -- the concept of 'you' IS the concept of 'choice' no difference-- or -- the observer is the observed.

    All equaling zero -- or dream substance.

    So, this word 'choice'- that is not what is being spoken about.

    As seeing is self evident so too is choice-- this 'choice' is 'power'

    instantaneous -unconditioned -uncaused -desireless -free.

    It is 'one' with Consciousness.

    You could say this choice/power is spontanteous.
    Defined as:
    "Happening or arising without apparent external cause"
    _________

    Tao:
    Without doing anything,
    Leaves nothing undone.

    Less and less is done,
    Till only non-action remains.
    Nothing is done, yet nothing is left undone.

    Buddhas words:
    Suffering exists, but none who suffer,
    The deed there is, but no doer thereof.

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    Re: Nobody Home

    Tao:
    Without doing anything,
    Leaves nothing undone.
    Economic systems drive harm
    - do more evil
    their mantra.

    To re-align our rapacious species with the spirit underling Tao will require people to change -
    - people to change,
    time to change
    - where t - (far less than 100 yrs) and counting.
    [ nothing other than killing money the law the savage within (original sin) matters ]

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    Re: Nobody Home



    As I understand the meaning of 'concept' all words are concepts or -at the very least- conceptual representations.
    As the saying goes:
    "The word is not the thing"

    or The Map is Not the Territory and the Flag is Not the Nation.



    When the destination is reached the map can be put aside.
    The word water may get us a drink, but it wont quench our thirst.

    There is no separate 'you' imagined when I say that life appears AS 'you' in the same way that there's no separate ball when clay appears AS a ball.

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    Re: Nobody Home

    Your touch is that of a ghost, your mightiest efforts like a soft breeze.
    The perfect description of an individual's lone impotence in fighting off repre$$ion -

    - repression by dollar is distributed within man
    - is formalized into human societal dealings

    - is the only problem which we face
    - can open the door to Tao when solved.
    [ nothing other than killing money the law the savage within (original sin) matters ]

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    Re: Nobody Home

    Quote Originally Posted by SB_UK View Post

    ~*~

    The reason why sometimes when we touch -
    we don't
    - no matter how real it feels

    - however -
    the notion of one underlying substrate which permeates 'under the surface' -
    confuses this idea yet further through suggestion that 'separateness' is an illusion -
    one connected whole -

    - how can we touch unless we're separate to begin with?

    'Spooky action at a distance' refers to interconnectedness in the layer of unstructure upon which structure is built.

    The notion of Separateness is simply a misleading artefact of structure -
    one which optimization of physical structure required
    - which completion of mental structure dispels.

    While there is a sense that life is simply living, thinking and acting though you and as you… this is simply a concept.

    There is no separate 'you' to act through or 'act as'

    and while there is a sense that ''everything is happening of its own accord'' -there is no separate 'thing' to act of it's own accord.

    The apparent difficulty lies in communicating the 'Seeing' from each of our apparent unique perspectives-(Quantum Entanglement)

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    Re: Nobody Home

    Quote Originally Posted by SB_UK View Post
    The perfect description of an individual's lone impotence in fighting off repre$$ion -

    - repression by dollar is distributed within man
    - is formalized into human societal dealings

    - is the only problem which we face
    - can open the door to Tao when solved.
    Give up learning, and put an end to your troubles.

    Is there a difference between yes and no?
    Is there a difference between good and evil?
    Do I need to fear what others fear? What nonsense!

    Other people are happy, enjoying the feasts and rituals of the world.
    In spring some go to the park, and climb the terrace,
    But I alone am drifting, not knowing where I am.
    Like a newborn baby before it learns to smile,
    I am alone, without a place to go.
    Others have more food than they need, but I alone have nothing.
    I am a fool. Oh, yes! I am confused.
    Others are clear and bright,
    But I alone am dim and weak.
    Others are sharp and clever,
    But I alone am dull and stupid.
    Yes, I drift like the waves of the sea,
    Without direction, like the restless wind.
    Everyone else is busy,
    But I alone am aimless and depressed.
    I am different.
    I am nourished by the great mother.

    Tao Te Ching.

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    Re: Nobody Home

    Quote Originally Posted by melanie View Post

    A great reason why evolution of a system leads to distribution -
    kinda' like the network which grows from intra- to inter-net.

    This pattern of evolution and distribution of systems -
    appears to mirror the tendency for the system to mirror the underlying substrate upon which it is formed.

    ----------- underlying substrate -----------
    ----------- structure - level one -----------
    ----------- structure - level one -----------
    ----------- structure - level one -----------

    ----------- underlying substrate -----------
    ----------- structure - level one -----------
    ----------- structure - level two -----------
    ----------- structure - level two -----------
    ----------- structure - level two -----------

    ----------- underlying substrate -----------
    ----------- structure - level one -----------
    ----------- structure - level two -----------
    ... ... and so it continues ... ...

    Summary


    evolution of
    underlying substrate
    ->-
    level one (which distributes) until 'back to the garden'
    (resonation with underlying substrate)
    ->-
    evolution of
    underlying substrate / layer one
    ->-
    level two (which ... ... and so it continues ... ...
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