The Best Yet: "Theory of Everything."

[SteveA]

But notice that you consciously constructed an explanation after the assumed fact.

Not "assumed", such as purely imagined, but from the evidence of neurology, which is much more "concrete". The "construction" is the facts, not a rebuilding. So it applies in the present and in the future when it is repeatable. It also held up to the present.

But that repeatability is something that is a mental construction and less concrete than something currently experienced.

For example, someone might be standing in the rain and it could be considered rather unquestionable due to the fact that raindrops are hitting them and their clothes are wet etc.

Now why did it rain? Well there are a lot of possible reasons that could be constructed to describe that because those conditions are in the past and not physically verifiable - it's a mental construction and obviously as real as someone believes it to be.

Now I don't mean to say that your description is incorrect but simply that it's not necessarily the truth. It's a possible foundation upon which explanations could be built, but I'm rather certain it will not prove complete either (a lot of people have believed it was as simple as that and yet when we get down to nuts and bolts, neural sciences aren't able to give a good description of conscious experiences either).

We must admit that imagination has infinite avenues,

Very true and understanding that is important.

while the actual is the actual, so there we have something to go on.

I think "the actual" is broader than you're trying to portray it though and that's why I posted my comments.

[Drifter]

Preaching?

I'm just writing the equation for TOE.
Surely that is still allowed.

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MJA

http://www.wisegeek.com/which-are-the-oldest-religions-in-the-world.htm

[Drifter]

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But that repeatability is something that is a mental construction and less concrete than something currently experienced.

For example, someone might be standing in the rain and it could be considered rather unquestionable due to the fact that raindrops are hitting them and their clothes are wet etc.

Now why did it rain? Well there are a lot of possible reasons that could be constructed to describe that because those conditions are in the past and not physically verifiable - it's a mental construction and obviously as real as someone believes it to be.

Now I don't mean to say that your description is incorrect but simply that it's not necessarily the truth. It's a possible foundation upon which explanations could be built, but I'm rather certain it will not prove complete either (a lot of people have believed it was as simple as that and yet when we get down to nuts and bolts, neural sciences aren't able to give a good description of conscious experiences either).



Very true and understanding that is important.
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I think "the actual" is broader than you're trying to portray it though and that's why I posted my comments.

According to Patanjali's Yoga Sutras, Samadhi is practiced first on the gross objects, then on the subtle elements, the mind devoid of any objects except its own joy, in other words on the satvic mind, and finally on the "I" feeling alone. There is a graduation, because, one can't immediately contemplate the very subtle. First one has to train the mind on a concrete object.
Remembering that at this point the mind is already well under control. The moment the purely focused mind contemplates on an object, it goes to the very depths of that object and understands every particle of it.
A focused mind gains power, and when that powerful mind concentrates on an object the entire knowledge of that object is revealed to it.
Knowing this, we can easily see that the scientist who probed the matter and discovered atomic energy were practicing savitarka samadhi. They were practical and wanted to know; they focused their entire minds on that, and even the smallest particle of matter revealed itself. In getting the knowledge, we gained power over the atom. That is what is meant by savitarka samadhi.

So, the benefit of this contemplation (deep meditation) is the understanding of the inner secrets and powers of your object of contemplation. But, what will you do with this power? The danger can easily be realized by seeing how atomic energy has been used for destructive bombs instead of soothing balms. There is a danger in getting all the extraordinary powers. If this samadhi is practiced without the proper moral background, the result will be dangerous. But, as a scientist Patanjali must explain it anyway.

In time the mind gets the capacity to understand the abstract things even without concrete objects. Then, you rise above time and space also. This samadhi is called savichara, or with reflection. There are several more tiers to samadhi though, which I won't go into at this time, for the moment, this is enough to contemplate/reflect upon.

[Drifter]

In yogic meditation, we experience involution. It could be called the creation and destruction. But, actually, there is nothing created in you; nor is anything destroyed. As the Bhagavad Gita explains: The unmanifest appears as manifest and then returns to the unmanifest. What we see outside is the manifested, the in-between. That is called creation. That's why, according to yoga, we don't say God created anything. Yoga says God is just pure consciousness. And Prakriti (nature) is also there, its nature being to evolve and then dissolve.

Prakriti in the unmanifested condition, has both matter and force, which are inseparable like fire and heat; without fire there is no heat; without heat there is no fire. When nature is in an unmanifested condition the force is dormant or static; for example, when a dynamo doesn't revolve, no electricity is produced. But the instant the motor starts rotating, it produces electricity. This force, or prana, has three constituents, tranquility, activity and inertia.

When all three qualities are in equalibrium they do not affect the matter. But once there is a little disturbance in the three, it creates motion in the matter (brain), which gives rise to all kinds of forms. That is how the entire universe appears: the sky, the earth, the fire, the air and all the elements are created. So the One that is unmanifested slowly evolves Itself and ultimately we see concrete forms.

Now we are in the concrete world with all the previous constituents in full swing. We have to work from what we see now. from the known we work back toward the unknown. We can't just ignore the known and directly tackle the unknown. It is easier to do something with concrete things which we can see , feel, touch and taste. So that is why the mind is given something concrete to to contemplate on first when it has been made tranquil by concentration. Once it understands that, then it goes a little deeper into the subtle elements, then the still subtler ones, until it reaches the original matter.

Unless you understand Prakriti very well, you can;t get out of it. You can't just set it aside. That's why the others are to be practiced first, one after the other. ~Patanjali's Sutras

[Drifter]

I can no longer hold on to the agnostic or atheistic, philosophically and theologically backwards and uneducated view about "religion". I have done the investigation because I wanted the answer as to what it all meant. I found the answers I sought in Yoga. Sanskrit in particular is one of the, if not the oldest written word. And it has a philosophy from which "religion" was born out of.Greek, Hebrew and Aramaic cultures all have their own translations and depictions of this phenomenon as do many if not all languages (English is a bastard language imo). There are all right in their essential teachings. Man has distorted these truths, written during moments of selfless Inspiration and reflection, for his own gain.

It's all interconnected and it explains everything. Beginning with the mind, in which all thing are created.

I've had an awakening in the form of an out-of-body experience, but that merely created more questions than it answered. But it was a sign. A Glimpse beyond the veil of darkness into something other-worldly than what we have become accustomed too, something Universal, and applicable to all, who would endeavor to investigate, understand reality/relativity (Consciousness).

[Drifter]

Yoga is a lot like Hinduism and Buddhism in the sense that it is a philosophy for living a peaceful life. Not only for themselves but for others.

War-like or waring cultures are diametrically opposed to this lifestyle because they are used to using people to get what they want. And the resulting power it gives them over others.

The two aforementioned cultures make easy prey for such governing, oppressive non-conformist mentalities.

[MJA]

http://www.wisegeek.com/which-are-the-oldest-religions-in-the-world.htm

I can't claim to have invented the truth of equality,
But I do know it.
And now I champion equality as my true self.
Once One knows the truth of Oneself, One knows the equity of One = All. TOE

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MJA

[Drifter]

I can't claim to have invented the truth of equality,
But I do know it.
And now I champion equality as my true self.
Once One knows the truth of Oneself, One knows the equity of One = All. TOE

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MJA

I dedicate my body, mind, and soul to the art, science and study of Yoga.

It is the supreme science of the (beautiful) Mind.

All else is second to that.

Drifter

[Drifter]

I can't claim to have invented the truth of equality,
But I do know it.
And now I champion equality as my true self.
Once One knows the truth of Oneself, One knows the equity of One = All. TOE

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MJA

"The True Seeker must, before all else, cleanse his heart..."~Bahaullah

Have an = day.
Drifter

[Drifter]

I can't claim to have invented the truth of equality,
But I do know it.
And now I champion equality as my true self.
Once One knows the truth of Oneself, One knows the equity of One = All. TOE

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MJA

Before Jesus' dispensation came along and updated Abrahamic and Mosaic law, it was an-eye-for-an-eye and a tooth-for-a-tooth. Then Jesus said; "Treat others as yourself". "equality". So, you see MJA, this really isn't anything new.
You are just coming to realize an age old truth for your self.Epiphany
Others should be so fortunate as you.

Point is MJA, I've known this for a long time already. Glad someone is finally catching/waking up.

The Bahai Faith is doing the same thing with Islamic and other religious Law.

It's a process of involution/reflection, for those who get it.
The outer-man is a reflection of the inner-man.

= Peace, True with oneself.