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    Re: The Best Yet: "Theory of Everything."

    Quote Originally Posted by melanie View Post



    When we say I think I feel I see I love I like I enjoy we are referring to the ego in us.
    This 'I' with which we are so familiar is our limited duplicate 'I'
    Our real 'I' the Self the Soul in us lies behind the ego.


    The body and the mind is an instrument that the soul uses in the material universe
    to experience it and to function in it efficiently.
    This instrument is limited and limits the capacity of the soul to express it's divine qualities.
    The soul has to initially develop this instrument thereafter refine it, purify it so as to be able to express itself through it to it's best capacity.
    After this it has to learn to extricate itself out of both the body and the mind and find it's eternal freedom.
    Mind by nature is very active and restless.
    In indian tradition it is compared to that
    of a monkey who has been bitten by a scorpion and fed with a good amount of liquor and on top of it a devil has taken possession of him.
    It is a very powerful instrument.
    One who has conquered his mind will conquer the world.
    Mind has two aspects.
    It has consciousness that acts as the subjective observer and experiencer.
    This consciousness is called ego consciousness.

    This consciousness is limited and identifies itself with all the activities of the mind and the body.
    This consciousness in the mind is like a lamp whose light is less.
    The soul's consciousness on the other hand is limitless like the light of the sun.
    The other aspect of the mind is it's energy content which takes different forms as thoughts, desires, emotions, willing, feeling, etc.

    Thought is the subtlest of all energies and is a creative energy.It is the building material of life.
    Thought creates all aspects of our life.
    All events and circumstances are a product of our thinking.
    Therefore, thought culture is an important aspect of yoga.

    When we learn how to bring the mind to a thought-less state, and remain in this state throughout all states of our being, to a point where induced meditation is no longer necessary,
    we are allowing unlimited unhindered natural creative energy to flow though our being, thus creating what we really want, while finally eradicating unnecessary and unwanted worries, tensions, anxieties, and stress from our lives for good.
    In this state we have surrendered our ego consciousness, and as it withdraws from the activities of the mind and turns inwards it becomes aware of it's source or origin and it's oneness with it's source.
    Ego has expanded itself in the soul.
    The duplicate 'I' has merged with the real 'I' and this is called Self-Realization the object of mediation.

    Ego is the 'I' in our mind around which all our thought, feelings, and experiences revolve.
    It is the author of our thinking, feelings, and desirings.
    It is the subjective enjoyer and experiencer of all our activities.


    The limited 'I' is the cause of all our pain and suffering, but by non-identification and attachment to these effects of the body/mind mechanism
    the limited 'I' dissolves and it's effects are automatically annihilated, bringing you back into a state of pure consciousness, which is your real true Self.

    Pure consciousness, is unborn, deathless, and does not suffer, does not judge, nor condemn,
    it it merely the silent pristine timeless eternal witness...it is perfection.
    It allows everything to be as it is, even the apparent evil acts of human beings .
    Right on.

    Its also known as an epistemological dichotomy.

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    Re: The Best Yet: "Theory of Everything."


    God is infinite nameless and formless.

    He can be reduced to infinite names and forms to suit the needs of infinite devotees
    Any teaching that says God has to be worshipped in a particular name and form
    or only through a particular path is a childish teaching.

    Yoga is the path of surrendering our mind and intelligence to God
    and learning to act as an instrument in his hands for his purpose.
    We give up our own ego based activities which may have good intention
    but has limited reach and perspective.

    We are like a wave and God is the ocean, the wave is seeking the love of the ocean,
    this is the real need,
    presently we are seeking our love from a neighbouring wave
    and we call it wife or husband or child,
    but the love we get from these waves are limited.

    When we learn to love the ocean and become aware of the ocean's ever present all responding love,
    the mind is fully satisfied.
    It is difficult for the average mind to love something that it cannot picture in the mind
    so God the ocean has to be reduced to names and form.

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    Re: The Best Yet: "Theory of Everything."

    Happiness is an inside job.

    Om Namah Shivaya

    I bow to the Lord
    who resides within.


    Like the Musk Deer analogy:

    Let your conscience Be
    your guide.

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    Re: The Best Yet: "Theory of Everything."

    "Happiness is an inside job"

    inside the man happiness is found,
    from the inside man
    from the man inside

    the one which walks with us
    the walks with which one us

    I laughed with the man inside when he did his job.

    "Happiness is an inside job."
    "I act like you act, I do what you do, but I don’t know, what it’s like to be you. What consciousness is, I ain’t got a clue. I got the Zombie Blues!"

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    Re: The Best Yet: "Theory of Everything."

    Quote Originally Posted by Meem View Post
    "Happiness is an inside job"

    inside the man happiness is found,
    from the inside man
    from the man inside

    the one which walks with us
    the walks with which one us

    I laughed with the man inside when he did his job.

    "Happiness is an inside job."

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txzOE...eature=related

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzzqh...eature=related

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    Re: The Best Yet: "Theory of Everything."

    From Amrutlaya
    `When the objective knowledge comes to an end, the Seer does not survive as a Seer. At that
    moment, the pride of the `I' (ego) just melts away". [Dasbodh, Chapter 6, Section 10.]
    As long as objects are taken to truly exist, until then only the seer remains. As the being is
    conceptual, so also is the seer. If you call this city `Bombay', it appears as Bombay; if you call it
    earth, it will appear as earth. It all depends upon the seer's concept. If you call an object a chair, it is
    a chair; if you call it wood, it is wood. If you call the all as Brahman, then the all is Brahman. If you
    call it the world, it is the world. All objects depend on the concept of the seer. But Brahman is
    beyond concept and no concept can conceive it.
    There is a woman whom one man calls her his `wife', the other calls her `sister', the third one calls
    her `daughter'. Actually she is nothing but a lump of flesh and bones. Whatever you say happens.
    All is conceptual and depends upon the concept of the seer. The world and the beings in it are
    conceptual. The `seer' who calls the manifestation as truth is the ego and that ego has to be
    eradicated. If the ego goes away, then only Brahman remains.
    King Dhrutarashtra of Mahabharata was blind. He gave birth to a hundred sons called Kauravas and
    had pride in them. The one who embraces the body as oneself is the blind Dhrutarashtra. He is also
    the one who is called Ravana, a demon in the mythological book Ramayana. One should have a
    feeling that all the objects are untrue and Brahman alone exists. All objects are demons and because
    you give them the status of the demons, you are King Ravana. Ravana is not the rightful king. He is
    not the Lord. Because you consider the objects as being true, you become Ravana. You have to get
    rid of this Ravana `I'. The I does not exist. Getting rid of the `I' can be called a wishful death. In the
    Ramayana it is stated that Ravana was a great devotee of Lord Shiva and on the request of Ravana,
    Shiva gave him a boon of wishful death. Ravana rules over fourteen regencies, i.e., the fourteen
    senses: five each of knowledge and action, mind, intellect, consciousness and the ego. When God
    rules over the earth, the demons go to the lower regions, and when the demons rule over the earth,
    God goes away and performs penance. If the objects are taken to be true, it means that the demons
    are ruling and God is not there. There is no trace of Him. But when God becomes victorious (i.e.
    when the determination or the feeling comes that all these objects are untrue), then the demon `I'
    also disappears. When the ego is destroyed, then all is Brahman. One has to practice that the I and
    all objects are untrue. A realized person feels all is Brahman. The food, the wooden plank on which
    one sits while taking meals, for him or her the spouse and water are all expressions of Brahman. All
    is Brahman. Your subject of study should be as above. Then it will be God's kingdom. Brahman is
    not color, it is not yellow or black, it is not music, etc. The ghee (purified butter) which is liquid and
    the ghee which is solid are the same just as water and ice is the same. When the earth meets earth it
    is all consciousness. All that you see and perceive is nothing but the reality (Brahman). What you
    see is only the qualified consciousness just as you see that bangles or armlets are both made out of
    gold.
    Stop insisting that good alone should happen to this body. You have become the gross body because
    only one body is the object of your concept. The servants and the attendants should be considered as
    God. There is no other Brahman with or without quality. All is Govinda (God). Because we
    categorize all objects, there is the ego (jeeva). You perceive the wife as wife, the daughter as
    daughter, the horse as horse or the dog as dog. They are all Brahman only. There is no need to
    change the form of the objects. Only the attitude of the seer must change. Brahma is the same even
    when it is in a state with attributes. You should see Brahma in whatever state He exists. Even the
    atoms and molecules of a chair are all Lord Krishna (Brahman). Once this attitude is taken, then he
    himself is Brahma. Even though one sleeps, awakens, or goes about, one has not slept, awakened,
    gone about or taken a meal. When all is Brahman who is eating and sleeping? The one who is
    without quality and the one who is speaking (i.e. with quality) are both God. Whether a king is
    sitting on the throne or hunting, he is always a king. The one who is walking and talking is the idol
    of consciousness. One is a devotee when one gives names to different objects as well as to him or
    herself and is a saint (sadhu) or Paramatman when one looks upon the creation as Parabrahman. To
    forget Paramatman and eat food is just turning the food into faeces. The silkworms are better, as the
    silkwear made from their cocoons are used by priests while worshipping God. Those who eat faeces
    can digest faeces. The gods and demons are right here. The gods and the demons together churned
    the ocean of the world which produced nectar and wine. Lord Vishnu gave the nectar to the gods
    and the wine to the demons. To say "Vishnu did this" means the inner sense-consciousness did this.
    Both nectar and wine are right here. It is within our own hand to drink the nectar and to become
    immortal. One who "awakes" will achieve this. All is God. Let all be happy. If you practice this and
    take it to heart, then [the realization will be] all is Brahman. One has to water a plant until it gets its
    roots. Then it will grow by itself. You should persist in your practice until you achieve this.

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    Re: The Best Yet: "Theory of Everything."

    Quote Originally Posted by MJA View Post


    Even God's own son Jesus could lose it sometimes too.

    Rembrandt was a true master.
    Perfection anyone?

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    The bible says at the time of passover Jesus came to Jerusalem:

    When Jesus saw the money changers and the others, who sold animals for sacrifice, so close to the house of the Lord he said;
    It is said that gods house shall be known as a house of prayer; and you have turned it into a den of thieves.
    Then in protest, he began 'turning over their tables'.

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    Re: The Best Yet: "Theory of Everything."

    Quote Originally Posted by Drifter View Post
    The bible says at the time of passover Jesus came to Jerusalem:

    When Jesus saw the money changers and the others, who sold animals for sacrifice, so close to the house of the Lord he said;
    It is said that gods house shall be known as a house of prayer; and you have turned it into a den of thieves.
    Then in protest, he began 'turning over their tables'.
    Surely Drifter, Jesus had a problem with animal sacrificing ( so do I). And surely again, he would have had the same distain for human sacrificing, right? (I Again) And if so, did Jesus throw God out of heaven after being sacrificed for the redemption of mankinds sins by his own father, God himself, after accending to heaven again? Why would he go back home, to turn God's table over?

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    The truth of everything is less than one inch,
    it is only equal and the lion is one.
    One is free when the door is opened,
    education has the key.
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    Re: The Best Yet: "Theory of Everything."

    Quote Originally Posted by MJA View Post
    Surely Drifter, Jesus had a problem with animal sacrificing ( so do I). And surely again, he would have had the same distain for human sacrificing, right? (I Again) And if so, did Jesus throw God out of heaven after being sacrificed for the redemption of mankinds sins by his own father, God himself, after accending to heaven again? Why would he go back home, to turn God's table over?

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    This is what I believe.

    The bible, was the first "psychology book."
    Its primary tenet is awakening from the control of our ego and the many roles it (e-motion- energy in motion, to emote, when this sinks in it may give you goose-bumps)plays throughout mankind's diversity as relative consciousness. What "speaks to us" in our psyche is our "conscience" and along side our earthly urges and desires it is the "Higher Power" of the two.

    What "Christians" today believe in as the only truth to live by has been adulterated by the Church and people in places of power within and without who have been brain-washed with the same rhetoric and fanatical, fundamentalist dogma.

    Born again is returning to the blank slate state of pure awareness as taught in Hinduism and Buddhism. Aka "Brilliant Virtue".
    The truth of the born-again, outside Buddhists and Hindu theology is based in truth in the vernal equinox or dying and resurrection of the new sun for agriculture tribes who worked for the state of the empire and were born into nearly slave labor unto the Kings of the lands and their family's of privileged who "ruled" the common folk or the have-nots, in the times of antiquity.
    History bears out this truth. For the other go here...
    "Keep the Nativity Scenes at Christmas!"
    http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-17009-Freethought-Examiner~y2009m12d21-Keep-the-Nativity-Scenes-at-Christmas

    or

    http://tinyurl.com/yfuf3ax

    Here's a taste of what I believe is a very important issue, the understanding of which could truly change the world for the better -

    December the month of winter-solstice celebrations

    In the modern era, many millions of people have also become increasingly aware that this time of the year is not depicted biblically — contrary to popular belief — as the birthday of Jesus Christ but was in reality an ancient Pagan celebration of the sun, taking place at the winter solstice. These winter-solstice celebrations can be found in many places globally, from Japan to the Americas, dating back thousands of years. Some of them, such as the ancient Greco-Roman celebration of Brumalia or the Roman Saturnalia, lasted for several days preceding the solstice time. In the 2010 calendar, for example, Brumalia begins on November 24th, while December 11th represents the birthday of Bruma, Roman Goddess of Winter....

    In Buddhism and Hinduism, as well as Christianity and the other major religions, as I said, it about awakening to the tyrant within, the ego, subduing it so the rightful Ruler can assume His rightful station. (this is an allegory of course for becoming one with our own Conscience as opposed to being subservient to our e-motions and our egos.

    If you don't have a conscience that tells you right from wrong, your in deep do-do anyway. Social customs has a special place for such people. As it should be.

    Jesus is said to have spoken thusly, "My Father and I are one, but He is greater than I.

    Think about that, and draw your own conclusions.


    How could the creature be greater or grander than the Creator?

    Jesus was talking about his ego (lesser) and His Conscience (Greater Consciousness),Whose wisdom he freely shared, and so many mis-understood. In the sense He actually was "God" from above, walking in the valley (lowness) of earth. He ruler his baser animal "nature." Represented by Him entering the city sitting/riding on an ass/donkey, and it represented that He had attained to His Divine nature as an example for all of us.
    Jesus, was an exceptional Yogi.

    P.s. See John 3:16

    See if it doesn't fit into the context of things as I have explained them to you here?

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    Re: The Best Yet: "Theory of Everything."

    Quote Originally Posted by MJA View Post
    Surely Drifter, Jesus had a problem with animal sacrificing ( so do I). And surely again, he would have had the same distain for human sacrificing, right? (I Again) And if so, did Jesus throw God out of heaven after being sacrificed for the redemption of mankinds sins by his own father, God himself, after accending to heaven again? Why would he go back home, to turn God's table over?

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    Gods "table"?
    You take things too literally, like most everyone in the beginning Mj.
    'Home', is a place/state in the psyche, that is free from suffering.
    Mankind's "sin" is that they have forgotten this, their soul or spirit having become embodied and entangled, so to speak, in the material and have forgotten their divine nature , remembrance of god, a Higher consciousness.
    That was Jesus', Christs, Higher-Self's, message and his purpose, is to re-mind us.
    A change in Consciousness. (Let the dead bury the dead)
    Thereby serving God and Humanity for the betterment of all.
    This all takes place with a change of perspective (how we see things) in our menticulture. The change, "resurrection", because it has never 'not been there', brings about Heaven on Earth (preparing gods 'house'), by e.g. the death and resurrection of the son/sun of God, the Divine Perspective (freedom from ego or "little-self") Ego is like the diffused pure light through the prism of the mind. The spectral colors that the mind changes the pure light to as it passes through the mind as emotions, energy in motion, cause the human organism to "Be" and to "feel" in this physical presence by way of the input of the senses.
    So knowledge of "mind"- ego, as opposed to Thine, is a very critical issue/topic for for the equanimity or balance of
    /serenity for the mind/body organism in particular.

    One need reassess their concept of "god" and see the truth in it for what it truly is. Salvation and Liberation from self imposed suffering and unhappiness, since we, ourselves in our animal nature, is the only thing real thing "we" have control (choice) over, and not rightfully anybody else.

 

 

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