The Best Yet: "Theory of Everything."

[melanie]

This is what came up when I clicked the link, Melanie.

Interesting......

Sorry Lorrina, sometimes that just happens with technology, it has a mind of it's own

[SteveA]

Remember the song ''Feed the world"
--well thank god it's them instead of you.....THIS TIME

Yes, if people paid more attention to taking care of themselves instead of trying to take care of everyone else I think that's half of it right there.

Of course to whatever extent you want to assist others beyond that is, as it should be, charity.

And yes, there are many contexts of looking at the same picture but they say the same thing - if something needs to be fixed its oneself (and generally there was nothing that needed fixing - unless someone feels they do need to fix themself in some manner ... and once again, you get the same result in that you're always doing what you choose to do and predetermined to be nothing other than what you are, whatever that is - and that's fine because it couldn't have been any other way, yes, "oneself" includes a lot more than is typically recognized - and the introductory training guide has a lot of missing chapters ).

[labelwench]

Hunger the opposite to '' people so full of food they can hardly get off their behinds'' is the infinite one experiencing the many aspects of it's one same self.

THE INFINITE IS YOU.

-those hungry people ARE YOU
-those filthy rich people ARE YOU

So now have a look and and see if you can find the one who is doing the suffering,
or perhaps see that there is something that remains untouched 'something' that is aware of the suffering.

The bigger picture is that the body-mind is the infinite having a finite experience.
You are the infinite, and the body resides in you the same way that a star resides in space.

*The body is false,
And so are its fears,
Heaven and hell,
freedom and bondage.
It is all invention.
What can they matter to me?
I am awareness itself.*

Awakening to the dream is knowing it is the one dreamer(awareness) dreaming all characters & everything.
Sometimes it appears as a hungry person, sometimes a rich privileged person.

Remember the song ''Feed the world"
--well thank god it's them instead of you.....THIS TIME

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MH1R_S9Y3zM

I am thankful for all my blessings, Melanie, and comfort myself that I help where I can.

The scale is overwhelming, at times.

Although I have every right to be outrageously happy, it is counter-balanced by all the pain of this world, though I may comprehend it differently than those who speak of 'enlightment.'

'Tears are not enough', I posted sometime back....

My point perhaps, is that there is no comfort for me in the teachings of these many philosophies of enlightenment.

That is my dilemna, not meant to detract from those who find bliss in their understanding of such.

Would, that it could, end the wars, and the suffering.

Life and loss offer enough challenge, without lacking the basic ammenities for so many, while others have excess and do not even recognize the fact.

As ever,

Labelwench

[austintorn@aol.com]

Mel,

If all is the babble of the Dream talking to itself as an illusion, should Drifter and I still discuss the book about science and inelligence that he presented a few posts back as real and worthy of good information and discussion?

Or a waste of time over a Dream that wavers all around and disjointed, seemingly presenting all viewpoints as 'us' posters in a nonsensical way of jabbering with no underlying significance?

Also, aren't you taking over Drifter's thread that talks about the quantum realm and other stuff?

[Profpat]

These are postulated to represent the properties of a solitary universal basic substance that comprises all of existence within our universe. The "Integrated Theory of Intelligence" should, therefore, be considered as a "Theory of Everything".

OK Drifter what is this: "solitary universal basic substance that comprises all of existence within our universe."?

[melanie]

My point perhaps, is that there is no comfort for me in the teachings of these many philosophies of enlightenment.

Enlightenment to me is having crystal clear awareness of the futility of life.
And embracing that with a passion, and this i call having a sense of clarity of what IS rather than what isn't.
For example, the futility of life is....
Like when a wildebeest is ripped apart by it's predators, while the rest of the herd graze on in the distance completely unperturbed by the whole event.

That is my dilemna, not meant to detract from those who find bliss in their understanding of such.

Would, that it could, end the wars, and the suffering.

Change happens, but nothing changes, and that's where, in my case, i find my bliss, just knowing that everything is the way it is, just because it is.
I embrace IT ALL.

In that WHAT ever happens is going to happen, and i have absolutely no control.

I'm just a tumbleweed blowing in the wind, and that is the ultimate freedom, to just let go.

[SteveA]

I am thankful for all my blessings, Melanie, and comfort myself that I help where I can.

The scale is overwhelming, at times.

Although I have every right to be outrageously happy, it is counter-balanced by all the pain of this world, though I may comprehend it differently than those who speak of 'enlightment.'

'Tears are not enough', I posted sometime back....

My point perhaps, is that there is no comfort for me in the teachings of these many philosophies of enlightenment.

That is my dilemna, not meant to detract from those who find bliss in their understanding of such.

Would, that it could, end the wars, and the suffering.

Life and loss offer enough challenge, without lacking the basic ammenities for so many, while others have excess and do not even recognize the fact.

As ever,

Labelwench

Consider as well though that people who have enough can also add more challenges than they need to.

Now that's perfectly fine and can add to ones quality of life, but it need not be considered a duty, unless one wants to consider it such etc.

Basically, I'm just trying to say that everything can be done as one still wants but everything can also be placed in the best context and this provides a solid direction that's enduring and does not need to be altered over time. With respect to charity, it's because one wants to help, give and this desire should be respected as well and the offers appreciated etc.

There are multiple ways to "paint" the same picture - and there's no reason to paint it less than the best, unless desired to be that way (in which case, yes, it's still the best ) - so what is it that I'm really saying? I think it's simply that someone chooses things to be the way they want it and not believe that the state is up to some unknown/random whim beyond control. Accept what is, appreciate it and know that if it should be better in some manner then it's up to oneself to define what that is and make it that way (and yes, I recognize I'm giving myself some advice too ).

[austintorn@aol.com]

Well, Drifter, when things settle down around here from nothing meaning any darn thing, then we can discuss the 'real' book that you referenced on science and intelligence and more.

[melanie]

Also, aren't you taking over Drifter's thread that talks about the quantum realm and other stuff?

Hi Drifter.

AM I off topic on your thread?

Would you like melanie to leave your thread?

AM I taking over your thread?

[Profpat]