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    Re: The Best Yet: "Theory of Everything."

    I've been thinking about this stuff for some time now, and at this point in my spiritual journey, I no longer see a difference between "consciousness" and "awareness". I also see "witnessing" as simply the act of being aware or conscious of something, whatever that something is.

    Some people see consciousness as necessarily implying a duality. That in order to be "conscious", there has to be something to be "conscious of". I don't exactly see it that way anymore. Duality only occurs when there is awareness of *differences*. When your consciousness is merely conscious of consciousness itself, there is no duality, there is no difference to perceive, there is only awareness of being aware of awareness. This is the "I AM" which is at the root of all being, the indivisible Self beyond all human egos -- the One undifferentiated mind. This is when subject and object realize they are the exact same thing.

    I see mind, matter, and spirit as all being made up of consciousness.

    Mind is the consciousness of logical thought forms.

    Matter is the consciousness of physical form.

    Spirit is the consciousness of archetypical form.

    But ALL are consciousness, or awareness (again, I must stress these are merely synonyms for me). However, all these qualities involve awareness of differences or limitations. All forms, whether they be physical or nonphysical, are the result of limitations being imposed on the otherwise undifferentiated pure awareness. So all those qualities will necessarily experience varying degrees of duality.

    I don't believe it is possible to escape "doing". When you get down to it, even raw existence is a state of action, the involuntary act of "being". Existence is not an option -- consciousness cannot become unconscious (but it can forget that it was conscious). However, I consider "being" to be the most pure and absolute manifestation of energy (which is all consciousness is -- raw action), and all other states of action (or in otherwords, energy) are derived from this pure potential state of being.
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    Re: The Best Yet: "Theory of Everything."

    Psychology: The Soul and the Self.... http://www.kheper.net/topics/Niscience/ARC-soul.htm

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    Re: The Best Yet: "Theory of Everything."

    Quote Originally Posted by melanie View Post
    Be aware and conscious of your consciousness, and you will find who you really are.


    Spiritual Life is more than just a theory....
    It must be lived....
    (To Be appreciated....)

    Unless I accept my virtues,
    I will be overwhelmed by my faults.

    There's a Spiritual, Cardinal/Knightly Principle/Virtue to offset every character defect known to God and man alike.


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    Re: The Best Yet: "Theory of Everything."

    Quote Originally Posted by Drifter View Post

    Spiritual Life is more than just a theory....
    It must be lived....
    (To Be appreciated....)

    Unless I accept my virtues,
    I will be overwhelmed by my faults.

    There's a Spiritual, Cardinal/Knightly Principle/Virtue to offset every character defect known to God and man alike.
    I died as a mineral and became a plant,
    I died as plant and rose to animal,
    I died as animal and I was Man.
    Why should I fear? When was I less by dying?
    Yet once more I shall die as Man, to soar
    With angels blest; but even from angelhood
    I must pass on: all except God doth perish.
    When I have sacrificed my angel-soul,
    I shall become what no mind e'er conceived.
    Oh, let me not exist! for Non-existence
    Proclaims in organ tones, To Him we shall return.

    "I am the servant of God" affirms two existences, his own and God's, but he that says Anā l-Ḥaqq, "I am God" has made himself non-existent and has given himself up and says "I am God", that is, *"I am naught, He is all; there is no being but God's." This is the extreme of humility and self-abasement.

    *"The Best Yet: Theory Of Everything." imho
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    Re: The Best Yet: "Theory of Everything."

    Quote Originally Posted by Meem View Post
    It is sum from of cosmic irony how the road of determination is paved, or most widely believed to be founded on a bedrock of quantum randomity. I think Austin likes to call it quantum jitters. To me, there is are some parallels between those whom say the road is spiritual and those who say it is scientific. A man walking down either one will tell you of all sorts of rules, laws, principles, and theories. Yet utimately, neither can true say where this road comes from or goes. Both will promise of golden eggs at end, having never seen one, or the hen that lays them. But, there will be things that occur on either man's road to which they will be able to predict with great accuracy.
    Origin and Nature of Thought Adjusters



    (1176.1) 107:0.1 ALTHOUGH the Universal Father is personally resident on Paradise, at the very center of the universes, he is also actually present on the worlds of space in the minds of his countless children of time, for he indwells them as the Mystery Monitors. The eternal Father is at one and the same time farthest removed from, and most intimately associated with, his planetary mortal sons.

    (1176.2) 107:0.2 The Adjusters are the actuality of the Father’s love incarnate in the souls of men; they are the veritable promise of man’s eternal career imprisoned within the mortal mind; they are the essence of man’s perfected finaliter personality, which he can foretaste in time as he progressively masters the divine technique of achieving the living of the Father’s will, step by step, through the ascension of universe upon universe until he actually attains the divine presence of his Paradise Father.

    (1176.3) 107:0.3 God, having commanded man to be perfect, even as he is perfect, has descended as the Adjuster to become man’s experiential partner in the achievement of the supernal destiny which has been thus ordained. The fragment of God which indwells the mind of man is the absolute and unqualified assurance that man can find the Universal Father in association with this divine Adjuster, which came forth from God to find man and sonship him even in the days of the flesh.

    (1176.4) 107:0.4 Any mortal who has seen a Creator Son has seen the Universal Father, and he who is indwelt by a divine Adjuster is indwelt by the Paradise Father. Every mortal who is consciously or unconsciously following the leading of his indwelling Adjuster is living in accordance with the will of God. Consciousness of Adjuster presence is consciousness of God’s presence. Eternal fusion of the Adjuster with the evolutionary soul of man is the factual experience of eternal union with God as a universe associate of Deity.

    (1176.5) 107:0.5 It is the Adjuster who creates within man that unquenchable yearning and incessant longing to be like God, to attain Paradise, and there before the actual person of Deity to worship the infinite source of the divine gift. The Adjuster is the living presence which actually links the mortal son with his Paradise Father and draws him nearer and nearer to the Father. The Adjuster is our compensatory equalization of the enormous universe tension which is created by the distance of man’s removal from God and by the degree of his partiality in contrast with the universality of the eternal Father.

    (1176.6) 107:0.6 The Adjuster is an absolute essence of an infinite being imprisoned within the mind of a finite creature which, depending on the choosing of such a mortal, can eventually consummate this temporary union of God and man and veritably actualize a new order of being for unending universe service. The Adjuster is the divine universe reality which factualizes the truth that God is man’s Father. The Adjuster is man’s infallible cosmic compass, always and unerringly pointing the soul Godward.

    (1177.1) 107:0.7 On the evolutionary worlds, will creatures traverse three general developmental stages of being: From the arrival of the Adjuster to comparative full growth, about twenty years of age on Urantia, the Monitors are sometimes designated Thought Changers. From this time to the attainment of the age of discretion, about forty years, the Mystery Monitors are called Thought Adjusters. From the attainment of discretion to deliverance from the flesh, they are often referred to as Thought Controllers. These three phases of mortal life have no connection with the three stages of Adjuster progress in mind duplication and soul evolution.
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    "Fihi Ma Fihi";
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    " 'I' died as a mineral and became a plant,
    I died as plant and rose to animal,
    I died as animal and I was Man.
    Why should I fear? When was I less by dying?
    Yet once more I shall die as Man, to soar
    With angels bless'd; but even from angelhood
    I must pass on: all except God doth perish.
    When I have sacrificed my angel-soul,
    I shall become what no mind e'er conceived.
    Oh, let me not exist! for Non-existence
    Proclaims in organ tones,
    To Him we shall return."

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    Re: The Best Yet: "Theory of Everything."

    Quote Originally Posted by Drifter View Post
    I've been thinking about this stuff for some time now, and at this point in my spiritual journey, I no longer see a difference between "consciousness" and "awareness". I also see "witnessing" as simply the act of being aware or conscious of something, whatever that something is.

    Some people see consciousness as necessarily implying a duality. That in order to be "conscious", there has to be something to be "conscious of". I don't exactly see it that way anymore. Duality only occurs when there is awareness of *differences*. When your consciousness is merely conscious of consciousness itself, there is no duality, there is no difference to perceive, there is only awareness of being aware of awareness. This is the "I AM" which is at the root of all being, the indivisible Self beyond all human egos -- the One undifferentiated mind. This is when subject and object realize they are the exact same thing.

    I see mind, matter, and spirit as all being made up of consciousness.

    Mind is the consciousness of logical thought forms.

    Matter is the consciousness of physical form.

    Spirit is the consciousness of archetypical form.

    But ALL are consciousness, or awareness (again, I must stress these are merely synonyms for me). However, all these qualities involve awareness of differences or limitations. All forms, whether they be physical or nonphysical, are the result of limitations being imposed on the otherwise undifferentiated pure awareness. So all those qualities will necessarily experience varying degrees of duality.

    I don't believe it is possible to escape "doing". When you get down to it, even raw existence is a state of action, the involuntary act of "being". Existence is not an option -- consciousness cannot become unconscious (but it can forget that it was conscious). However, I consider "being" to be the most pure and absolute manifestation of energy (which is all consciousness is -- raw action), and all other states of action (or in otherwords, energy) are derived from this pure potential state of being.
    http://www.urantia.org/en/urantia-book-standardized/paper-1-universal-father

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    Re: The Best Yet: "Theory of Everything."

    7. Spiritual Value of the Personality Concept


    (31.1) 1:7.1 When Jesus talked about “the living God,” he referred to a personal Deity — the Father in heaven. The concept of the personality of Deity facilitates fellowship; it favors intelligent worship; it promotes refreshing trustfulness. Interactions can be had between nonpersonal things, but not fellowship. The fellowship relation of father and son, as between God and man, cannot be enjoyed unless both are persons. Only personalities can commune with each other, albeit this personal communion may be greatly facilitated by the presence of just such an impersonal entity as the Thought Adjuster.
    (31.2) 1:7.2 Man does not achieve union with God as a drop of water might find unity with the ocean. Man attains divine union by progressive reciprocal spiritual communion, by personality intercourse with the personal God, by increasingly attaining the divine nature through wholehearted and intelligent conformity to the divine will. Such a sublime relationship can exist only between personalities.
    (31.3) 1:7.3 The concept of truth might possibly be entertained apart from personality, the concept of beauty may exist without personality, but the concept of divine goodness is understandable only in relation to personality. Only a person can love and be loved. Even beauty and truth would be divorced from survival hope if they were not attributes of a personal God, a loving Father.
    (31.4) 1:7.4 We cannot fully understand how God can be primal, changeless, all-powerful, and perfect, and at the same time be surrounded by an ever-changing and apparently law-limited universe, an evolving universe of relative imperfections. But we can know such a truth in our own personal experience since we all maintain identity of personality and unity of will in spite of the constant changing of both ourselves and our environment.
    (31.5) 1:7.5 Ultimate universe reality cannot be grasped by mathematics, logic, or philosophy, only by personal experience in progressive conformity to the divine will of a personal God. Neither science, philosophy, nor theology can validate the personality of God. Only the personal experience of the faith sons of the heavenly Father can effect the actual spiritual realization of the personality of God.
    (31.6) 1:7.6 The higher concepts of universe personality imply: identity, self-consciousness, self-will, and possibility for self-revelation. And these characteristics further imply fellowship with other and equal personalities, such as exists in the personality associations of the Paradise Deities. And the absolute unity of these associations is so perfect that divinity becomes known by indivisibility, by oneness. “The Lord God is one.” Indivisibility of personality does not interfere with God’s bestowing his spirit to live in the hearts of mortal men. Indivisibility of a human father’s personality does not prevent the reproduction of mortal sons and daughters.
    (31.7) 1:7.7 This concept of indivisibility in association with the concept of unity implies transcendence of both time and space by the Ultimacy of Deity; therefore neither space nor time can be absolute or infinite. The First Source and Center is that infinity who unqualifiedly transcends all mind, all matter, and all spirit.
    (31. 1:7.8 The fact of the Paradise Trinity in no manner violates the truth of the divine unity. The three personalities of Paradise Deity are, in all universe reality reactions and in all creature relations, as one. Neither does the existence of these three eternal persons violate the truth of the indivisibility of Deity. I am fully aware that I have at my command no language adequate to make clear to the mortal mind how these universe problems appear to us. But you should not become discouraged; not all of these things are wholly clear to even the high personalities belonging to my group of Paradise beings. Ever bear in mind that these profound truths pertaining to Deity will increasingly clarify as your minds become progressively spiritualized during the successive epochs of the long mortal ascent to Paradise.
    (32.1) 1:7.9 [Presented by a Divine Counselor, a member of a group of celestial personalities assigned by the Ancients of Days on Uversa, the headquarters of the seventh superuniverse, to supervise those portions of this forthcoming revelation which have to do with affairs beyond the borders of the local universe of Nebadon. I am commissioned to sponsor those papers portraying the nature and attributes of God because I represent the highest source of information available for such a purpose on any inhabited world. I have served as a Divine Counselor in all seven of the superuniverses and have long resided at the Paradise center of all things. Many times have I enjoyed the supreme pleasure of a sojourn in the immediate personal presence of the Universal Father. I portray the reality and truth of the Father’s nature and attributes with unchallengeable authority; I know whereof I speak.] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtGhLoO8JK8

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    Re: The Best Yet: "Theory of Everything."

    Soul Carrier

    The physical body plus the mind and emotions, are literally the vehicle that carry the conscious, immortal soul around so that it may experience the physical plane in time and space. The soul carrier is a temporary vehicle, and the soul incarnates into many of them across thousands of years of time, so as to have a full range of human experience and explore creation from a multitude of perspectives, as different human beings, in a wide variety of cultures, and as a thousand different personalities. (Please read the definition of soul, to help put “soul carrier” in the context that is proposed on this website.)

    Once a person realizes the expanded, eternal nature of soul, and that fragments of it are inhabiting an incredibly diverse range of bodies, personalities and cultures — simultaneously ... at this moment — then the individual naturally begins to align to the soul’s perspective. As an expression of All That Is, the individual then begins creating personal and group realities from the energetic and wisdom basis that “I am another you.”

    With this wholistic understanding of the immortal soul, the soul carriers that the soul temporarily occupies, and that reincarnation is a method of movement used by souls as they interact with human evolution and planetary life — this broad, far-seeing, all-encompassing perspective is used as a tool to guide nations and humanity to a more enlightened way of conduct.

    Visit the Glossary in Depth for more info:
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    Re: The Best Yet: "Theory of Everything."

    Gregg Braden:
    http://mayanprophecy2012.blogspot.co...ero-point.html
    good stuff....by a 'scientist'! (they're not all alike...thank god!!!)

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    Re: The Best Yet: "Theory of Everything."

    Quote Originally Posted by Drifter Paraphrased View Post
    Species are Life Carriers

    The physical body plus the mind and emotions, are literally the vehicle that carry the immortal life around so that it may experience the physical plane in time and space. The life carrier is a temporary vehicle, and life incarnates into many of them across thousands of years of time, so as to have a full range of human experience and explore creation from a multitude of perspectives, as different human beings, in a wide variety of cultures, and as a thousand different personalities. (Please read the definition of life, to help put “life carrier” in the context that is proposed on this website.)

    Once a person realizes the expanded, eternal nature of life, and that fragments of it are inhabiting an incredibly diverse range of bodies, personalities and cultures — simultaneously ... at this moment — then the individual naturally begins to align to life’s perspective. As an expression of All That Is, the individual then begins creating personal and group realities from the energetic and wisdom basis that “I am another you.”

    With this wholistic understanding of immortal life, the life carriers that the life temporarily occupies, and that reincarnation is a method of movement used by life as it interacts with human evolution and planetary life — this broad, far-seeing, all-encompassing perspective is used as a tool to guide nations and humanity to a more enlightened way of conduct.
    Ya'know Drift .... I hope you don't mind me being presumptive .... but I replaced the word 'Soul' with the word 'life' throughout your text .... An du ya know what buddy .... makes perfect sense to me.

    We disagree only on a semantic issue.

    cool bananas old friend ...greg
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