The Best Yet: "Theory of Everything."

[Drifter]

The environment remains uncreated until we, as witness, interact with it. QM. 101

We evoke a potential that is already existent. Noted physicist ~John Archibald Wheeler

Here's an epiphany for you.

"We are what we think, all that we are arises with our thoughts and with our thoughts we create our world(s)."

~The Damapada, Buddhist Canon

IOW The universe, as we know it, is participitory.
Both the seen/scene and the unseen (many, micro-macro worlds)

Viewing (seeing, envisioning) is a participatory act, although a passive one.

Be one with that... and the 'you drops away'. 'That' then, is all there IS. [Unity/Oneness]

What's left is pure unmanifested [uncreated] potential. When there is only potentiality that is, anything is possible. Unconscionable? Lol

[labelwench]

The environment remains uncreated until we, as witness, interact with it. QM. 101

We evoke a potential that is already existent. Noted physicist ~John Archibald Wheeler

Here's an epiphany for you.

"We are what we think, all that we are arises with our thoughts and with our thoughts we create our world(s)."

~The Damapada, Buddhist Canon

The environment provides a pine casket for such time as when I cease to interact with it.

Whose interaction then, retains the pine casket, which , if buried in permafrost, may be retrieved decades or centuries later?

Regards,

Labelwench

[Drifter]

The environment provides a pine casket for such time as when I cease to interact with it.

Whose interaction then, retains the pine casket, which , if buried in permafrost, may be retrieved decades or centuries later?

Regards,

Labelwench

Whose indeed? Can a pine casket (inert matter) willingly interact with its environment.

Sounds like you will be a cool lady for cenuries to come, even if you aren't ever to become aware of it.

P.S., Do you honestly think that it will be "You" in the box?
Is it ever really anyone at all that is in-the-box?

Aren't our bodies simply so much recycled matter, really?

Such thinking, imho, locks us into a psychological prison of our own making.

Thinking outside the proverbial box alone can set us free from this habit of thought, most honorable Lady, freeing us from the prison of habitual thoughts and questions.

One sage asked another, "What is God?" The other replied, "The witness of the mind.' "So "the witness of the mind" is the answer to "Who am I?"

Lord Rama once asked Guru Vavishtha, " Who is God, what exactly is His nature, and how can I know Him?" Vavistha answered, "God is the one, the Self, who perceives all sensations such as sight, smell, taste, touch, and sound. He is all pervasive."

So you are the one I have described, and the purpose of your existence is to know who you are. The rest will take care of itself. Man should first know himself, and then he can participate in outer life.
Therefore you should get to know the pure "I", the pure ego. This is why you should undertake meditation. The only purpose of meditation by shaktipat is to know the pure ego.[*Unsullied/unadulterated by the dingle-berries (baubles) of the outer world. i.e. urges and desires, I, me, you, they, them.] "Psychologically, Free from blemish" [duality].
~Swami Muktananda
*my comment

[Drifter]

The environment provides a pine casket for such time as when I cease to interact with it.

Whose interaction then, retains the pine casket, which , if buried in permafrost, may be retrieved decades or centuries later?

Regards,

Labelwench

When consciousness has left the building...things are no longer participary nor relative. The relative aspect becomes inert and consciousness remains what it always ever was, is, will be. Therefore it is said "Brahmnan [Consciousness] alone exists." The pot is always the pot the witness is alwqays the witness. How can you possible continue to assume, see thyself as "the pot?"
Truly, verily, thou art the witness thereof, no?
Even if you do agree, you will become conscious of this truth(verity) at some point along your sojourn in this finite material realm. Albeit, that may not happen until the demise of the mind-body organism, "you" as you otherwise think you are.. So , all the messengers and manifestation have told us since time immemorial. Should manikind ever endeavor to lend an ear to truths absolute.

"Ignorance is bliss."

[Drifter]

"The nature of consciousness has yet to be defined in modern terms even though a great deal of time and effort has been devoted to this endeavor, particularly over the last several decades. The question as to its origin and significance dates back to antiquity but only recently have we gained enough understanding as to its place within the usual scheme of things, to begin to unravel this mystery. It is my current belief that we must begin with one of two choices. It would appear that consciousness must either be a primary property of the universe being present at the beginning or developed later as an epiphenomenon. If one were to poll most scientists I would guess that the majority would side with those individuals who believe consciousness to be an epiphenomenon. Most research scientists who have devoted themselves to the study of the mind-brain believe consciousness to be an epiphenomenon of the electrochemical events occurring within the brain. There is simply no question that consciousness is heavily influenced by these electrochemical events but it is also most doubtful that they are the cause of consciousness.
For many years I remained an agnostic relative to whether consciousness represents a primary or secondary phenomenon since I could not find compelling reasons to choose either viewpoint over the other. I now believe that there is enough information, much of which is scientifically based, to allow for a clear choice. As a matter of fact I would even suggest that the evidence is overwhelming and those whose persist in choosing the other alternative are selectively ignoring the preponderance of information available.
When the Integrated Theory of Intelligence was first developed in 1984 there was less scientific evidence to support the conclusions offered in the text. Since then there has been considerable progress and there is more scientific evidence accumulating to support the theory. For those that are interested, a reading list of books can be accessed through this web page, each with a short synopsis summarizing how the information within the book gives additional support to the concepts presented in the "Integrated Theory of Intelligence"."

*Link posted previously in this thread*

imho:
"Scientist" are just finally comming to the same "results"(waking-up too) what the Sages of antiquity have been passing down to their followers for centuries. Guess we'll have to wait until the New Science replaces all those egomaniac stiff shirt types who want to presumptuously take credit for the remarkable intelligence and power of detachment, of our ancestors, by grooming ancient wisdom into a "modern language" (burying it in "Theory!). Which will, imho, bear out the truth of those ancient masters of "Theory of Relativity (aka... Everything)".

[melanie]

The environment remains uncreated until we, as witness, interact with it. QM. 101

We evoke a potential that is already existent. Noted physicist ~John Archibald Wheeler

Here's an epiphany for you.

"We are what we think, all that we are arises with our thoughts and with our thoughts we create our world(s)."

~The Damapada, Buddhist Canon

IOW The universe, as we know it, is participitory.
Both the seen/scene and the unseen (many, micro-macro worlds)

Viewing (seeing, envisioning) is a participatory act, although a passive one.

Be one with that... and the 'you drops away'. 'That' then, is all there IS. [Unity/Oneness]

What's left is pure unmanifested [uncreated] potential. When there is only potentiality that is, anything is possible. Unconscionable? Lol

Good Post D


Put another way ----- listen to this piece i received in my email this morning from: Bliss Music.



"The nature of awareness
is freedom from identification.

If you are aware of anger,
then you are not identified with anger.

If you are aware of a thought,
you are not identified with the thought.

The thought arises, the anger arises
but it has nothing to do with you.


Identification
is always happening
at an unconscious level.

You are walking to work
and unconsciously
identification is there.
'My name is Jon, I am a dentist,
I am on Main st. where I turn left
to go to my office...'

Always defining
'This is me.'
'This is who I am;
this is where I am;
this is what I am doing;
this is where I am going;
this is where I have been.'

So instead of practicing awareness
from the perspective of identity,
you could try consciously
not being identified with anything.

You allow the thoughts, body and sensations
to be as they are
but you consciously
disidentify with them.

'This body is not mine,
this name is not mine,
these thoughts are not mine,
this emotion is not mine,
this belief is not mine.'

Not as words to repeat
but to consciously
not identify with anything at all.

If you choose to not
have an identity
then awareness is automatic.

You will experience life
in a completely different way.

By consciously
letting go of all identity,
you exist as energy,
as formless consciousness

completely free of ego
& all the conflict and separateness
that goes with it.


NOW --- I'm off to work, riding my bike with no handle bars ...lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoJnVcoHnIE

[SteveA]

I just wanted to post a link I thought had some interesting ideas and information (I'm certain it's nothing new to many, but I had some fun digging through the site). Basically, it's a compilation of lots of religious and spiritual views that tries together the commonalities between them.

http://reluctant-messenger.com/main.htm

As always, have fun

[Drifter]

I just wanted to post a link I thought had some interesting ideas and information (I'm certain it's nothing new to many, but I had some fun digging through the site). Basically, it's a compilation of lots of religious and spiritual views that tries together the commonalities between them.

http://reluctant-messenger.com/main.htm

As always, have fun

Thanks Steve, for the link. I'm not the only one it appears who is attempting to tie 'modern' science into spirituality...QM.
Something the ancients have known for millenia.
But, 'I' digress. relative to the human-phenom
http://www.dennislewis.org/

fish

[Drifter]

Good Post D


Put another way ----- listen to this piece i received in my email this morning from: Bliss Music.



"The nature of awareness
is freedom from identification.

If you are aware of anger,
then you are not identified with anger.

If you are aware of a thought,
you are not identified with the thought.

The thought arises, the anger arises
but it has nothing to do with you.


Identification
is always happening
at an unconscious level.

You are walking to work
and unconsciously
identification is there.
'My name is Jon, I am a dentist,
I am on Main st. where I turn left
to go to my office...'

Always defining
'This is me.'
'This is who I am;
this is where I am;
this is what I am doing;
this is where I am going;
this is where I have been.'

So instead of practicing awareness
from the perspective of identity,
you could try consciously
not being identified with anything.

You allow the thoughts, body and sensations
to be as they are
but you consciously
disidentify with them.

'This body is not mine,
this name is not mine,
these thoughts are not mine,
this emotion is not mine,
this belief is not mine.'

Not as words to repeat
but to consciously
not identify with anything at all.

If you choose to not
have an identity
then awareness is automatic.

You will experience life
in a completely different way.

By consciously
letting go of all identity,
you exist as energy,
as formless consciousness

completely free of ego
& all the conflict and separateness
that goes with it.


NOW --- I'm off to work, riding my bike with no handle bars ...lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoJnVcoHnIE

Happy Trails Love.

Being more Selfaware
And less selfconscious
IS BE-ing more
Of who I truly Am.

Happy Hiaku
D.

[Mikal]

Thanks Steve, for the link. I'm not the only one it appears who is attempting to tie 'modern' science into spirituality...QM.
Something the ancients have known for millenia.
But, 'I' digress. relative to the human-phenom
http://www.dennislewis.org/

fish

Thanks for the link Drift...coincidental that an article on Gurdjieff should be there...look at this quote...

"
self-observation is best approached not as a technique but rather as an entirely new relationship to oneself as a living, breathing being. Self-observation as described by Gurdjieff is an intimate pathway into one's own mind, body, and spirit. It allows us to experience new levels of self-awareness, and by so doing to live more conscious, harmonious lives. ..."

When I first experienced metaphysical energy and needed answers as to why my life had suddenly become contrary to all the world says life is....I first found Gurdjieffe in that long journey of enquiry I have been on....

I had become self-reflective...or self-observational...growth and change I never understood at that time....smiles...


Regards Mikal