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    Re: The Best Yet: "Theory of Everything."

    Quote Originally Posted by labelwench View Post
    This takes me back to my riding school days....

    We are all teachers, Melanie, though we often may not consider ourselves such.

    As with the horse example.....

    Experience, is the only credential that separates a horse trainer from a student of horsemanship.

    From the perspective of the horse, every interaction the horse has with any human, will be a 'learning opportunity', that will either reinforce positive or negative previous learnings.

    You have made many very inspirational and beautiful posts, Melanie, and have taught me much, and given me much to contemplate and respect.

    So when I see you posting manic smiles, that feel like tears to me, my first nature, like the horse, is to flee....

    My second nature, as a forum friend, is to ask 'why'?

    I appreciate your comments in response to my question, and I apologize if I have been too forthright or pushy.

    Universal love and peace upon you, Melanie.

    Lorrina
    Thankyou sweet Lorrina.
    I do like horse people, and my mother-in-law, owns some Dartmoor ponies, she has them grazing on her 10 acre plot on dartmoor in devon...Like these ones.


    With apologies for my behaviour yesterday Lorrina.

    I really liked reading the above post from you this morning.
    It made me feel all gooey inside....

    It made me feel like there are some really lovely understanding people on this forum after-all.

    Why did i get manic, i don't know, it just happens, i only ever live in the moment, and respond spontaneously to the sights of my surround.

    Sometimes i get manic, sometimes i'm calm and serene, i am just being what ever arises in me.


    We are all moons, we have each got a dark-side that we don't show to others.

    Melanie on the other hand is the ''WHOLE'' moon.

    Dear Lorrina, this next image is one that reminds me of your forum character, i think of you when i drive past.
    It is the White horse of Westbury Wiltshire England.

    I live about 10 mins drive from this horse carved from white stone into the hills of Wiltshire England.

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    Re: The Best Yet: "Theory of Everything."

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikal View Post
    Who are blockheads Mel?? I am seeing alot of "I" responces here in this thread. I have met many people over the years whose lives just pass along and they are completely unaware of what has been transpiring over the recent past...I would never call them blockheads...that is to be insensitive to another person's life....
    Did I misinterpret you?? Could you explain??

    Regards Mikal
    Hi Mikal,
    I believe the term originated here with me, not Mel?

    Blockheads are "scientists" dear, their heads are "in the box." The term is loosely applied to "Germanic peoples" for their way of thinking [which I don't have a problem with unless it is simply hard-headedness and prevents one from seeing the truth], or, So my German Grandfather explained to me.

    I hope no one took it 'personally'.

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    Re: The Best Yet: "Theory of Everything."

    Thank you Drift, I simply ask a question for clarification...

    Regards Mikal
    If I see a train coming and your on the track...if I don't tell you, it will be a pity for you and a shame on me....

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    Re: The Best Yet: "Theory of Everything."

    Yesterday's History,
    And tomorrow's a Mystery,
    Today's a Gift,

    "That's"

    Why It's called,
    "The Present."



    Quote Originally Posted by melanie View Post
    Past and Future
    (what has been VS what will be)

    Where does one end and the other begin?



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    Re: The Best Yet: "Theory of Everything."

    Quote Originally Posted by melanie View Post
    Respect is earned not a given.

    There is no self

    The relative mind can ask only questions that relate to itself.

    Relative questions about the absolute.......are absurd.

    Mel...self is an intelligently controlled isolation...a spiritually conscious and harmless being...

    Although intelligence is based on the principle of self...self can develop into "self-discipline" leading to intelligence which is ascetic, self-denying and altruistic in nature, or self can develop into "selfishness" with a consequent drift into incoherent self-indulgence or the blanket pursuit of self-centered power.....


    Regards Mikal
    If I see a train coming and your on the track...if I don't tell you, it will be a pity for you and a shame on me....

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    Re: The Best Yet: "Theory of Everything."

    This is actually one of the best yet threads.

    Ah, the Saturday morning comics. I love it.


    sally.

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    Re: The Best Yet: "Theory of Everything."

    Melanie;

    "Good Post D


    Put another way ----- listen to this piece i received in my email this morning from: Bliss Music.



    "The nature of awareness
    is freedom from identification.

    "Relative Consciousness, because of conditioning since birth and the associated enculturation from societal interactions arise [as the mis-identity], due to sensations:-seeing-hearing-smelling-tasting-touching arises within consciousness.

    If we mis-identify with those sensations we appear to the witnessing then as seperate from that witnessing.

    If you are aware of anger,
    then you are not identified with anger.

    If you are aware of a thought,
    you are not identified with the thought.

    The thought arises, the anger arises
    but it has nothing to do with you.

    Thought arises, but we are not the thought, it, the thought, arises within our true nature [off-shoot], though it is apart of our nature but not our pure nature...it is known as "Mis-identification. Thought is both tangible and intangible. Tangible in the sense that emotions are/or can be and usually are ["I am"] attached to said thought.


    Identification
    is always happening
    at an unconscious level.

    You are walking to work
    and unconsciously
    identification ["I" as ego] is nearly always there.
    'My name is Jon, I am a dentist,
    I am on Main st. where I turn left
    to go to my office...'

    Always defining
    'This is me.'
    'This is who I am;
    this is where I am;
    this is what I am doing;
    this is where I am going;
    this is where I have been.'

    So instead of practicing awareness
    from the perspective of identity,
    you could try consciously
    not being identified with anything. [Even consciousness, try being "AWARENESS and witnessing thoughts and sensations arise as "consciousness.]

    You allow the thoughts, body and sensations [thoughts with emotions attached/again as something seperate from Pure unalloyed AWARENESS.]
    to be as they are
    but you consciously
    disidentify with them.

    Pure-Psyche of a man,woman,child loses its innocent by mis-identification with sensation [flesh/ego].

    'This body is not mine,
    this name is not mine,
    these thoughts are not mine,
    this emotion is not mine,
    this belief is not mine.'

    Not as words to repeat
    but to consciously
    not identify with anything at all.

    If you choose to not
    have an identity
    then awareness is automatic.

    You will experience life
    in a completely different way.

    By consciously
    letting go of all identity,
    you exist as energy,
    as formless consciousness

    completely free of ego
    & all the conflict and separateness
    that goes with it.

    Mankind has two voices in their Psyche, their CONSCIENCE and/or their conditioned/enculturated ego.

    The bible says that Jesus [the "archtype of the perfect Being", was in constant communion with his "Father". Let "Father" in thi s instance represent the "Conscience" as apart from/ not influenced by the "ego" aka Satan/Devil/Urges and desires of the flesh, etc. aka hell or the phenomenal world as apart from "Heaven or Nirvana".

    Therefore the allegory of the Garden of Eden plays out as
    Jesus-"Righteousness" only ever does "the right thing" uneqivocally, Eve...represent the ambiguous soul-non gender specific, but wayward none-the-less as "ambiguous", and "the serpent" is "rationalization. Since True and "Righteousness" can always be rationalized away in liew of "other" considerations.

    A "Righteous" individual is "God-like" is that their is no air-of-ambiguity associated with such an entity. Therefore that "entity" is a blessed one. A "Child-of-God."

    See?

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    Re: The Best Yet: "Theory of Everything."

    Sally Seeker?

    Perhaps Ken Wilber said it quite well.

    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/advaitin/message/2579?l=1

    All intelligence is plagerism...
    only ignorance is original.

    Be a founder, a twice-born.

    Namaste` Love
    D.

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    Re: The Best Yet: "Theory of Everything."

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikal View Post


    self can develop into "self-discipline" leading to intelligence which is ascetic, self-denying and altruistic in nature,


    or self can develop into "selfishness" with a consequent drift into incoherent self-indulgence or the blanket pursuit of self-centered power.....


    Regards Mikal
    In the universal field of actions and reactions yes.

    but, we are beyond these conceptual ideas / stories.

    In reality.........

    That which is, is without cause...
    That which seems to be, is caused
    That which is causeless, is the cause of all things...
    That seem to be
    This is power indeed.

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    Re: The Best Yet: "Theory of Everything."

    Quote Originally Posted by Drifter View Post
    Melanie;

    "Good Post D


    Put another way ----- listen to this piece i received in my email this morning from: Bliss Music.



    "The nature of awareness
    is freedom from identification.

    "Relative Consciousness, because of conditioning since birth and the associated enculturation from societal interactions arise [as the mis-identity], due to sensations:-seeing-hearing-smelling-tasting-touching arises within consciousness.

    If we mis-identify with those sensations we appear to the witnessing then as seperate from that witnessing.

    If you are aware of anger,
    then you are not identified with anger.

    If you are aware of a thought,
    you are not identified with the thought.

    The thought arises, the anger arises
    but it has nothing to do with you.

    Thought arises, but we are not the thought, it, the thought, arises within our true nature [off-shoot], though it is apart of our nature but not our pure nature...it is known as "Mis-identification. Thought is both tangible and intangible. Tangible in the sense that emotions are/or can be and usually are ["I am"] attached to said thought.


    Identification
    is always happening
    at an unconscious level.

    You are walking to work
    and unconsciously
    identification ["I" as ego] is nearly always there.
    'My name is Jon, I am a dentist,
    I am on Main st. where I turn left
    to go to my office...'

    Always defining
    'This is me.'
    'This is who I am;
    this is where I am;
    this is what I am doing;
    this is where I am going;
    this is where I have been.'

    So instead of practicing awareness
    from the perspective of identity,
    you could try consciously
    not being identified with anything. [Even consciousness, try being "AWARENESS and witnessing thoughts and sensations arise as "consciousness.]

    You allow the thoughts, body and sensations [thoughts with emotions attached/again as something seperate from Pure unalloyed AWARENESS.]
    to be as they are
    but you consciously
    disidentify with them.

    Pure-Psyche of a man,woman,child loses its innocent by mis-identification with sensation [flesh/ego].

    'This body is not mine,
    this name is not mine,
    these thoughts are not mine,
    this emotion is not mine,
    this belief is not mine.'

    Not as words to repeat
    but to consciously
    not identify with anything at all.

    If you choose to not
    have an identity
    then awareness is automatic.

    You will experience life
    in a completely different way.

    By consciously
    letting go of all identity,
    you exist as energy,
    as formless consciousness

    completely free of ego
    & all the conflict and separateness
    that goes with it.

    Mankind has two voices in their Psyche, their CONSCIENCE and/or their conditioned/enculturated ego.

    The bible says that Jesus [the "archtype of the perfect Being", was in constant communion with his "Father". Let "Father" in thi s instance represent the "Conscience" as apart from/ not influenced by the "ego" aka Satan/Devil/Urges and desires of the flesh, etc. aka hell or the phenomenal world as apart from "Heaven or Nirvana".

    Therefore the allegory of the Garden of Eden plays out as
    Jesus-"Righteousness" only ever does "the right thing" uneqivocally, Eve...represent the ambiguous soul-non gender specific, but wayward none-the-less as "ambiguous", and "the serpent" is "rationalization. Since True and "Righteousness" can always be rationalized away in liew of "other" considerations.

    A "Righteous" individual is "God-like" is that their is no air-of-ambiguity associated with such an entity. Therefore that "entity" is a blessed one. A "Child-of-God."

    See?
    I see.

    And that's why I love you.



    (how do i know?
    my heart tells me when it flutters,
    jesus has the same effect on me)

 

 
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