Toward Integral Consciousness.

[melanie]

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFyJYNqQtIc

Toward Integral Consciousness.

Düsseldorf 2006 international scientists conference "Wisdom and Science''...


A report of a confererence of scientists ..
Facing up to how our consciousness causes the problems in our world: environmental, war, poverty.

Meeting in 2006 of scientists in Dusseldorf.
They all agreed that the worlds present condition had been foreseen by people thousands of years ago.

People treat each other very badly.
Can human behavior even be called rational? What is the true purpose of life?
Why don't we know how to be fulfilled? Why do we try to fill that hole with pleasure?
Labeling creates a fragmented self, which causes a fragmented world.
Classical consciousness is linear - but insight comes in flashes.
Consciousness is non-local. Conscious experience is possible without the body (NDE)

Subjective experiences need to be included in scientific research.

Humanity is together One Body - we operate as one big organism.

But we lack the awareness of this oneness.

Our consciousness needs to transform in order for humanity to survive.

Noosphere = universal love. By destabilizing it we destabilizing it, we destabilize the world.

[Mikal]

Excellent video Mel and I did notice it was created in 2006. I find it very strange that an important International Conference could occur and yet here we are four years later and there is still this stubborn refusal in science to deny the legitimacy of subjective experience.

Regards Mikal

[melanie]

I find it very strange that an important International Conference could occur and yet here we are four years later and there is still this stubborn refusal in science to deny the legitimacy of subjective experience.

Regards Mikal

That's because ''they'' believe in a separate self where there isn't one.

In the state of subjectivity there is no conscious thought, no self-consciousness, no ego; nothing but awareness.

We are No-thing being Every-thing - AS AWARENESS ONLY

http://mmmi.robinfaichney.org/sandos.html


ps: *whatever brought me here -will have to bring me home*

[melanie]

FACT: the goal of total objectivity is unreachable; for one thing, we can never know that we have reached it.

Nobody is 'in the know' of 'oneness/wholeness' and never will be.

It is not something to be known or understood because 'it' is everything.

How can everything be known?

To know something it has to be defined and how can everything be defined or limited?

Because when something is known one must be able to say it is this and not that and this is impossible for 'everything'.

I say it clearly: 'I' don't know...

What can be 'done' apparently is to point to the 'undescribable', and that is exactly what is being 'done' here.

[melanie]

In the state of subjectivity there is no conscious thought, no self-consciousness, no ego; nothing but awareness.

We are No-thing being Every-thing - AS AWARENESS ONLY

“These old days - I wonder,
did I dream them
or were they real?”

*whatever brought me here -will have to bring me home*

“The flower invites the butterfly with no-mind;
The butterfly visits the flower with no-mind.
The flower opens, the butterfly comes;
The butterfly comes, the flower opens.
I don't know others,
Others don't know me.
By not-knowing we follow nature's course.”

[SteveA]

*whatever brought me here -will have to bring me home*

I think they're still doing construction work, but I've got my fingers crossed that the place looks nice.

[melanie]

In the state of subjectivity there is no conscious thought, no self-consciousness, no ego; nothing but awareness.

We are No-thing being Every-thing - AS AWARENESS ONLY

What happens to a shadow when caught in the sun?
Did the shadow transform into another thing.

What happens to a mirage when it's apparent reality is exposed to the light of awareness?
Was the mirage ever an actuality?
Or did it emerge and evaporate in the mind of a sentient being?

The mind of a Sentient Being... A Shadow no less

There is only Light playing this Play of Shadows.

Once realised, only then can the Unnamed-Unnameable break free from the confines of identified mind
and flow freely in and through the ever-emerging moment that is it's own totality.

I think that's a pretty nice place to be

PS: there's nowhere to hide.....hahaha

[melanie]

The original undivided pluripotent being had the option of remaining unmanifest. Manifestation was one of the limitless options available to this source.

For awareness to experience itself, a state of duality had to be induced. It needed to cleave itself and induce a pseudo-dichotomy of perceiver and perceived. This process is similar to the process of a developing embryo. The single cell replicates itself rapidly and metamorphoses into this complex and differentiated multiorgan form. In reality, we all are just one cell that has differentiated itself into specified functional units. When i touch my hair it actually is the manifestation of a single cell touching another expression of itself and the same cell also has the capability to comprehend this “touch” phenomenon.

All creation is an induced illusion of duality to enable the source to experience itself. The process of creation is in itself a gratifying experience. All artists, when they create a work of art, experience ecstasy on giving birth to a new idea, new thought. The sheer joy of manifesting in such diversity may be the objective of this exercise by the source. He not only created multiple loci of consciousness but also ensured that His creation was made oblivious to the source of its origins.

Time and space were introduced as illusory media to ensure the delusion of separateness of creation. This being was programmed with the ability to discover his origins, and provided the means to enjoy the rest of creation as well. Since the being was just a manifestation of the source, he also had all the attributes of the source. The resolve and ability to achieve anything he desires, the capacity to experience total bliss, and above all the freedom to exercise choice.

Selfless creation mandated that the being was given an illusion of being the ‘doer’. The self-effacement of the source could be a precondition for nourishing the identity of His creation. This illusion of being the doer and the centre of the universe manifests as ego. Ego served initially as a tool for self-preservation but as it crystallises further it totally envelops the consciousness and impedes realisation of its true nature.

The ego constantly reaffirms this illusionary duality. The more the ego hardens the farther it moves the being away from the knowledge of his true identity. It then embarks on a game wherein the being gets an illusion of having control and the ability to manipulate the environment for its own happiness.

Awareness when focused outward gets entangled in a web of duality. Then there is no limit to its indulgence. This kaleidoscopic creation has a potent arsenal to engage this awareness into its diverse forms. Indulgence is addictive and it keeps drawing this awareness into its throes, distancing itself from its true identity. Obsession with the materialistic world is actually as ludicrous as my hand being obsessed with my nose.

The ultimate objective is for consciousness to be able to perceive itself. This could be attained by various means and paths. This knowledge is already there within. The illusion is to look for it ‘without’. All other knowledge is duality-based and may at best help in providing analogies. However, analogy is a cheap substitute for experience. The purpose of creation was for the source to experience itself. Creation is like democracy. Made of the source, by the source and for the source. Self-awareness or unperceiving is self-realisation.


Source: Deepak Ranade

A consultant neurosurgeon.

[Drifter]

I think they're still doing construction work, but I've got my fingers crossed that the place looks nice.

"I Am the consumate artist
I draw upon my imagination." ~Albert Einstein

After all...What's the point of being unmanifest?

Suffice it to recognise
that was our beginning.
Is that really anything 'new' to anyone.
Iow, your ego you are not.
Everybody has one
nobody like's anybody else's, (seen for what it is e.g. Impostor)

is a given isn't it?

The induced state as spoken of can be experienced (caught/glimpsed, i.e. behind the veil, of illusion-aka the play of maya or consciousness),first thing upon awakening in the A.M.

What Senorial Input caused consciousness to shift from unmanifest (awareness) to manifest (consciousness)?

When Awareeness (Father) knows Sensation (Mother-Nature of Being) Consciousness is born (Being cognizant of one's surroundings).

[SteveA]

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What Senorial Input caused consciousness to shift from unmanifest (awareness) to manifest (consciousness)?

When Awareeness (Father) knows Sensation (Mother-Nature of Being) Consciousness is born (Being cognizant of one's surroundings).

Welcome back, Drifter.

I made a comment a bit earlier that appears related to similar lines and might be a manner to potentially unite time/energy/change with structure/form/logic as a structure of dynamic symmetry (i.e. imagine alternately changing two halves of an object and the alternate half provides the reference for the most recent change, though this could potentially apply to symmetries of larger quantity).

For example, if you were molding a block of clay and were perceiving this via. the internal stresses in the clay, then the observations of this alteration are indirect and arise within a context presented by the current form, both as it and as the pressures altering it. If the clay was left at rest, then there are no stresses and nothing is "visible" and similarly, there is no direct visibility of anything externally applying the pressure, but instead a composite/dual representation very similar to describing the motion of an object both as position and velocity. I believe the physical symmetry of the body arises from this.

Anyway, it's a(nother) possible way to represent both matter/logic/form/Yang and energy/time/change/Yin as a single object changing in the present.

http://www.toequest.com/forum/illusi...tml#post121782