Misery Loves Company.

[melanie]

We've all heard of the phrase '' Misery Loves Company''

Well let me make a few comments about insults and name calling on forums.

If we think someone is a pain in the arse, what we're really saying if we're honest is something a bit stronger than that, like ....
( I think you are a 1st class f*king retarded idiot ) .... lets not beat around the bush here.
So basically, we can't stand people who put us down, that is human nature to defend itself.

I personally don't think there is anything wrong with thinking our thoughts out aloud, because after all, sticks and stones may break our bones, but calling names can't hurt us, unless the words happen to be true of course, but there is nothing in a word, we have just been conditioned to think that there is, because language is all we got.
If we don't like the atmosphere on a forum then we can choose not to be here, otherwise we stay and put up with it, it is part and parcel of any this v's that discussion,it can't be changed, because human nature is what it is.
The reason people stay is because they want to regardless of what's going on.

And in most cases, we are just venting off our frustrations at others failure to see what we see.
What we should remember though, is that its not the person that we have a problem with, its more to do with their version of reality that we cannot abide, so really, we are only dissing their opinions, not them as a person 'per se'

Remember that humans beings are all the same in essence, just as roses are all the same, except some smell sweeter and look prettier than others.

The point is that we all perceive our reality in a way that only we are familiar with, we can no more get someone else to 100% agree or understand or even see exactly what it is that we are seeing, so why even try? we can only share what we see with others, but we can't ram it down their throats and expect them to buy it, unless they willingly want to.

A forum is a good place for depositing knowledge. It is our mission to use it to our better advantage, so we can further our understanding of the universe and the TOE or not. It's not about people in general, its about their ideas, how simple is that.

The problem with people is that they're always getting their pride involved which is dumb.
Why, because nobody owns knowledge. It's just something that's been floating around for ever.

PS: I've been guilty of insults and name calling in the past, but I've realized once and for all what silly nonsense being like that really is.
Now, all I'm here to do is to soak up all the knowledge that resonates with me, as for the people here, well they're just the depositor's of that knowledge, if it doesn't resonate with me, I'll leave it alone.

If we all did that, then perhaps this could be a really friendly, well informative and productive forum.

Obviously we can engage other peoples ideas by putting forward alternative ideas, based on their ideas.However, we must remember, that no one has the absolute monopoly on truths.

Because the truth does not want to be known for one very good reason, this is a live play not a dress rehearsal.

[labelwench]

Driving home from Dawson City last week, I observed an interesting event taking place in the air high overhead while my mother and I were taking a break. The annual southward migration of the geese was underway, it being mid-September, and the birds were at high altitude, possibly to avoid the strong winds we were experiencing on the ground.

There was a greater number of birds than I had ever seen, and they were not in their familiar V formations. There were many clusters of birds of varying size stretched out across half of the sky, some groups flying in circles and some of them flying in spirals. A few birds left one group and joined up with another. This mass of groups of birds seemed to be in a holding pattern in the sky, and I thought of traffic at an airport. They seemed not to be descending nor ascending, just working their patterns within a space. We watched this activity for many minutes, and gradually a few of the groups began to come together into the familiar flight wedge.

The direction of flight was several degrees different than the path in their wake, and as the leading group began to move across the sky, the other clusters of birds ceased their circling and spiraling and began to fall in, each group making this change of vector at the same 'corner in the sky', until there was a traffic flow of geese stretching nearly from horizon to horizon, marking the direction they had come from, and their new flight plan, as determined by some directional beacon known only to the geese.

I have watched the annual migration of the birds for many seasons now, but this was the first time I have ever witnessed so many birds in the air at once, a dynamic body of life, groups within groups moving and communicating their intentions in a manner that gradually drew order from a seemingly chaotic scene.

Mother and I had somewhat different hypothesis over what the birds were doing, as we shared our observations. We were watching the same activity and while the details of our observation would be identical nearly word for word as to number, placement, elevation and activity, the conclusions that each of us arrived at reflected the difference in our individual experiences of life.

From our observations and exchanges, each of us left with a broader range of perspective, neither needing to impose their viewpoint on another, as each was perfectly valid to the observer.

[melanie]

From our observations and exchanges, each of us left with a broader range of perspective, neither needing to impose their viewpoint on another, as each was perfectly valid to the observer.

Great post Lorrina and thank you for sharing. As to the above quote: Yes, exactly my point, well observed.



Another Quote Source: http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Carl_Sagan
It seems to me what is called for is an exquisite balance between two conflicting needs: the most skeptical scrutiny of all hypotheses that are served up to us and at the same time a great openness to new ideas … If you are only skeptical, then no new ideas make it through to you … On the other hand, if you are open to the point of gullibility and have not an ounce of skeptical sense in you, then you cannot distinguish the useful ideas from the worthless ones.

[labelwench]

It is the ability to share and compare observations through the diversity of language, arts and technology, which allow us to simulate and recreate an observation for the assimilation and subsequent dissemination of others which makes us a unique species, in my opinion. Our capacity to share and compare experiences is what allows us to filter and sort the objective measures from the subjective parameters, in effect linking our resources of thinking power and escalating the learning curve for mankind.

We have only to float an observation into this mental mixing pot and wait for results to follow. We are creatures of habit, it should be noted, and new ideas can take considerable time to attract notice and rigorous review, while some other long held concepts may be difficult, if not impossible, to filter unto a conclusive determination.

[mkirkpatrick]

Great thread starter Melanie,I will start by calling you a name! "Thoughtful insightful female person" there I feel better now after venting that! Seriously though we all like to be accepted and our posts hopefully supported,when this does not happen how do we feel? If we are mature and adult about it,we should hardly be affected whether we are supported or even criticised,but many of us being the human being as we are do let ourselves be affected.

I believe in agreeing to differ,then each going their own way afterwards,without name calling and insults,I have been guilty of this myself in the past I am ashamed to say,however hopefully I have matured a wee bit and now no longer rise to the bait so to speak.

regards michael.

[austintorn@aol.com]

No big deal. It happens a lot. Routine, and routinely dealt with.

Missouri can be pronounced 'Misery' and is it there that people may go to have company in misery and talk about it in kind. I also have descriptions for all the other states, some Canadian provinces, and more.

[Graybeard]

No big deal. It happens a lot. Routine, and routinely dealt with.

Your such a party pooper ...... negative only subtracts ...

I find the flight patterns of geese one of the basic building blocks of societies .... emergent behaviour is the key to consciousness.

greg

[austintorn@aol.com]

Your such a party pooper ...... negative only subtracts ...

Yeah, they subtract and detract from the good flow of idea discussion and real debate, but then the party resumes after a short while, hopefully in a some improved way.

[Graybeard]

Yeah, they subtract and detract from the good flow of idea discussion and real debate, but then the party resumes after a short while, hopefully in a some improved way.

Where are you now ? In a room surrounded by four walls ? a coffee shop ? Hawaii ?

Are you where you would like to be ? Or are you only wishing ... ? Misery loves company.

greg

[austintorn@aol.com]

Where are you now ? In a room surrounded by four walls ? a coffee shop ? Hawaii ?

Are you where you would like to be ? Or are you only wishing ... ? Misery loves company.

greg

I am in NY now, in my mountain house, which is a place where I like to be, and with people I like to be with, although they are out working now. (I am retired)

I had a good sleep, which I like, for it is all cozy.

I played tennis for three hours, which I like, with eight people, and then sat around there having some beers with people I like, telling stories.

I am supposed to jump in the pool or take a bath soon, probably both, which are a good combination that I like, and then I am supposed to vacuum all the floors, which is just OK, but good and likable in that it keeps the house clean, but I am here now in my boiler room office catching up on mail and threads, which I like, having grilled some chicken that I like, eating it with with some cats sitting around, which I like, although sometimes they press a key and send off mail before it's ready to go.

All in all, I suppose happiness is having something to do that you like, both at present and in the future, with people around as friends and loves.

Hawaii is great, for its season, during NY winter, but it can wait for that.

No medical or financial problems at the moment, nor any current misery, fortunately, and there is an exhilaration in writing and thinking now… and I have some coffee and smokes too, and feel good and glowing from the sports exercise.