The steps that must be taken to TOE

siddharthsma · **The steps that must be taken to TOE -** 06-29-2006, 11:05 AM

I think in order to create a theory of everything, we have to first have a thorough knowledge of general relativity and Qmechanics.
We then have to interpret Qmechanics better than just probabilities. A physical interpretation is needed. We must once and for all prove if things like parallel universes exist or not, in short we desperately need to find a physical interpretation.
Once this is achieved I believe that it will be easy to see how to connect things and come up with the TOE. What do u think ?

harmonygirl · **Re: The steps that must be taken to TOE -** 07-02-2006, 09:38 AM

Sid, I agree that this knowledge is necessary, but i don't think it is sufficient. I think your definition is better applied to the GUT. I think the TOE also has to take into account things like the Golden Ratio, Pi, the 5 Platonic solids, and fractals and universal harmony. There are some seriously cool mathematical patterns that need explaining and I don't think that physics alone will fully address itself to them. I think the TOE has to combine several disciplines because the rules of each discipline have become so convoluted that they are preventing us from seeing the forest for the trees...I think the only way to reach truth is to combine the disciplines and use a wholistic approach. After all, the elephant looks different depending on what you are holding, doesn't it?

mkirkpatrick · **Re: The steps that must be taken to TOE -** 01-07-2007, 06:39 PM

Siddarthsma.surprisingly few have taken up this thread,including yourself of course?Why
is this?The first steps that must be taken my friend are persistance,and one pointed
focussness,then when you have that firmly in place,the rest will surely follow!

regards michael.

Lloyd Gillespie · **Re: The steps that must be taken to TOE -** 01-07-2007, 08:10 PM

Very good points Harmonygirl. We must expand our understanding into the many inter-disciplinary studies. Only then can we put the pieces together to create a true TOE. It's not in the explanation of any single study, the answer lies in the explanation of how they all fit together...

Regards,
Lloyd

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Originally Posted by harmonygirl

Sid, I agree that this knowledge is necessary, but i don't think it is sufficient. I think your definition is better applied to the GUT. I think the TOE also has to take into account things like the Golden Ratio, Pi, the 5 Platonic solids, and fractals and universal harmony. There are some seriously cool mathematical patterns that need explaining and I don't think that physics alone will fully address itself to them. I think the TOE has to combine several disciplines because the rules of each discipline have become so convoluted that they are preventing us from seeing the forest for the trees...I think the only way to reach truth is to combine the disciplines and use a wholistic approach. After all, the elephant looks different depending on what you are holding, doesn't it?

Eric · **Re: The steps that must be taken to TOE -** 01-17-2007, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Lloyd Gillespie

Very good points Harmonygirl. We must expand our understanding into the many inter-disciplinary studies. Only then can we put the pieces together to create a true TOE. It's not in the explanation of any single study, the answer lies in the explanation of how they all fit together...

Then why are you so insistent on SCIENCE? Why do you shout people down when they are trying to take an inter-disciplinary approach?

Oh helllllllll... why am I even asking?

mkirkpatrick · **Re: The steps that must be taken to TOE -** 01-17-2007, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric

Then why are so insistent on SCIENCE? Why do you shout people down when they are trying to take an inter-disciplinary approach?

Oh helllllllll... why am I even asking?

Because you care Eric,thats why!I was going to say the steps we need to take are big
ones,but I will resist the temptation to do so?

regards michael.

Eric · **Re: The steps that must be taken to TOE -** 01-17-2007, 06:43 PM

The steps are logical ones. More exacting than have come before.

No assumptions and no hipocrites getting in the way, for their own self-grandisement.

mkirkpatrick · **Re: The steps that must be taken to TOE -** 01-17-2007, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric

The steps are logical ones. More exacting than have come before.

No assumptions and no hipocrites getting in the way, for their own self-grandisement.

I totally agree with you Eric,who is going to start us off?

regards michael.

Eric · **Re: The steps that must be taken to TOE -** 01-17-2007, 09:58 PM

I think Lloyd should do it.

No assumption... ready, set, ....?

Lloyd Gillespie · **Re: The steps that must be taken to TOE -** 01-17-2007, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric

Then why are you so insistent on SCIENCE? Why do you shout people down when they are trying to take an inter-disciplinary approach?

Oh helllllllll... why am I even asking?

Because Eric, I accept only the science of interdisciplinary studies, even the science of religion and metaphysics, and not the metaphysics and religions of sciences. It's that simple... I accept only evidentiary real substances as valid... The scientific substance of religions and metaphysics would be the fact that they have existed for thousands of years, real people have believed these false schools of thought. They do have some valid tenets. Their illogical tenets have confused many people, and led their entire lives down false paths. They are real in the fact that they exist as belief systems, even if false. These belief systems have been used by political leaders to control the flock and crowds. Let's discuss the evidentiary factual science of humanity's ideas, not our emotional whims...

regards,