Common Sense

[Infinite Consciousness]

All information being limited to the frequency of matter proves the point I have made. Eons of interaction within matter waves happen to create the you in accordance with the anthropic principle. What your eyes interpret as patterns corresponds with the evolutionary path matter took to organize. Why is matter driven to organize, you might ask? That is the big mystery? Perhaps it is in response to cosmic expansion that matter seeks to recombine, or perhaps it is random vibrations of the space-time fabric that we interpret as matter conglomerations and the world around us.

Our present is a direct result of past competitions to pass on information, the future is undetermined. Our consciousness is nothing more than emergent behavior of extreme complexity, that was allowed to develop within gravity. Consciousness is not something separate and in addition to matter.

Matter is not driven to organize - consciousness is driven to know itself and free itself from matter. Matter is not driven to anything matter is inert,lifeless, consciousness is driven to know itself. You would not experience gravity if your consciousness was not grounded in the matter of your mind - its thinking - your body - and the universe that you are creating from the electro-magnetic energy of thought.

Conscious spirit "is" something separate independent of matter !

Mr.Nobody, separate your consciousness from your body and then say that consciousness is not something separate and not only in addition to matter but in fact bringing - inert - lifeless - matter - to life.

"Why is matter driven to organize, you ask" ? "That is the big mystery you say." It is only a mystery to those who do not know or recognize consciousness as the life force bringing inert , lifeless, matter to life.


Would "gravity" exist if your consciousness was not grounded in matter ? Why don't you try it and find out for yourself instead of believing the psuedoscience of pseudoscientists ? ? ?

How do you know that consciousness is not something separate and in addition to matter ? ? ? Have you ever attempted to separate them ? ? ?

If you cannot prove that consciousness is a separate spirit independent of matter and you have never even attempted to separate consciousness from matter then you are just another would be pseudoscientist parroting the pseudoscience of materialism.

As You Think --- So You Become !!!

[dleviwing]

For those who find it difficult to discuss the theme of the originator of the thread, may I suggest you start your own thread or join one that is more in tune to your personal agenda or philosophy.

[Andrew]

One of the most interesring things in evolution of science and, I would say, of politics, is constant mutual transformation of materialism into idealism and viceversa. Politics are driven by IDEAS which move people to transform practical reality, learning of which makes people assume practical - materialist - point of view regarding ideas, politics, science and change the course of these. We separate consciousness, or what may be called as spirit RATIONALLY from the matter so to see the mutual interaction of both, but if you never unite them back in your mind then you stay in pseudo-science of idealism which then becomes ideology - a rigid model closed to updatings. TOE must be definitely a DYNAMIC model which implies the use of DIALECTICS - a tool of materilism. And if Marx won the contest of "The Thinker Of Millenium" even in an exclusive Internet survey and even above Newton and Einstein, it's because people realize that rational modelling of reality via concepts - action of conscious matter - allow people to become via thinking.

[Andrew]

Randomness first, laws second, explanation third, conscious action fourth. Consciousness is not something separate from the matter, it's PART of the matter, its unique characteristic which will ultimately will allow it to dominate its own evolution - like it or not that's where the genetics are driving us. Then the RESPONSABILITY will come in. As I always say, it better does now.