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Re: What's the Difference between a T.O.E. & a Grand Unified Field? - 10-28-2007, 01:31 PM

But you see, in a world of uncertain measure, probability or dice, QM, what lies on either side of = can be only theoretical at best. The only certainty of any equation is its foundation, and equal is the single absolute certain foundation called truth. If you look beyond equal, you ventured to far. Perhaps by removing any uncertainty from any equation, you will see it too.

Equality is Grand Unification.


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Re: What's the Difference between a T.O.E. & a Grand Unified Field? - 10-28-2007, 01:31 PM

Hi RP;
Neutralino is correct about the differences between GUT and TOE as he so correctly pointed that out to me.
In Wiki there is a great chart showing the difference;
expected pattern of theories is:
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Gravity
Electronuclear force (GUT)
Color force
Electroweak force
Strong force
Weak force
Electromagnetism
Electric force
Magnetic force
In addition to the forces listed here, modern cosmology requires an inflationary force, dark energy, and also dark matter composed of fundamental particles outside the scheme of the standard model.
Best to all,
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P.S. Darn it won't print out the chart here. Please go to;
( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_everything )

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Re: What's the Difference between a T.O.E. & a Grand Unified Field? - 10-28-2007, 01:47 PM

Hi Professor,

Science divides everything theoretically or probably, but not truly, don't you agree?
So what is the absolute certainty of nature's probable truth?
I'd call it modern science!

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Re: What's the Difference between a T.O.E. & a Grand Unified Field? - 10-28-2007, 02:05 PM

Hi MJA:

I sort of agree with your statement:

Science divides everything theoretically or probably, but not truly, don't you agree?

I believe it was Aristotle who began his scientific journey through classification. A very helpful tool, toward discovery.

How artificial classification is I'm not sure.

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Re: What's the Difference between a T.O.E. & a Grand Unified Field? - 10-29-2007, 11:00 AM

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I believe it was Aristotle who began his scientific journey through classification. A very helpful tool, toward discovery.



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An Aristolean logic with a GUT, TOE solution of truth looks like this:

IF A = B, and B = C, then A = C.

Then also it is logically true to say that if A B and C symbolise everything, then everything is unified by equality.

Or A = B = C = GUT = TOE..

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