[MJA]

Albert Einstein once said: "Ethical axioms are found and tested not very differently from the axioms of science. Truth is what stands the test of experience."

And Oliver Wendell Holmes wrote: "A mind that is stretched by a new experience can never go back to its old dimensions."

Then: "Once the ethical axiom of measure, the truth of equality, the truth of everything or TOE. is experienced, the mind will open and forever be free!"

MJA

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by MJA Albert Einstein once said: "Ethical axioms are found and tested not very differently from the axioms of science. Truth is what stands the test of experience." And Oliver Wendell Holmes wrote: "A mind that is stretched by a new experience can never go back to its old dimensions." Then: "Once the ethical axiom of measure, the truth of equality, the truth of everything or TOE. is experienced, the mind will open and forever be free!" MJA

That would seem to be the case MJA.where would a free mind take us?



regards michael.

[MJA]

Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick That would seem to be the case MJA.where would a free mind take us? regards michael.

Thanks Michael,

Where will freedom take us?

To the place of unity or equality or oneness or natural truth called TOE., grand unification, the promised land, or heaven on Earth.

Truth will set us free and take us there!

"Imagine all the people, living life in peace..." -John Lennon

MJA

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by MJA Thanks Michael, Where will freedom take us? To the place of unity or equality or oneness or natural truth called TOE., grand unification, the promised land, or heaven on Earth. Truth will set us free and take us there! "Imagine all the people, living life in peace..." -John Lennon MJA

Thanks MJA,IMAGINE is my favorite song,haunting melody,hits the spot where solar
meets plexus?


regards michael.

[Benedict Broere]

TOE won't be a thruth. It can't. Who has an absolute view on reality?
TOE won't be etc.
Freedom? Why?
Reality is, whe are in it; freedom?
Try to annihilate gravity! Just try! Freedom?
Reality Is! In a certain way it is. And we have to cope with... it.
Just try to stop the rain to fall. Reality is there. Something absolute. Reality is... The way it is. It is quite mad to deny reality.

[MJA]

Thanks for your interest Mr. Broere,

Perhaps then you could define the reality of gravity for me. I believe not even Newton was capable of that, are you?

Until then, I found these quotes to help you with the truth of equality and the freedom that it will bring,

"Everything that is really great and inspiring is created by the individual who can labor in freedom." -Einstein

"Truth, like surgery, may hurt, but it cures." -Han Suyin

The freedom of nature's truth of equality is TOE and the cure for everything great or not.

MJA

[Benedict Broere]

MJA,

You seem to equal TOE to Truth to Freedom.
But first: TOE can't be known with absolute certainty, because we have not an absolute view on reality to check it.
Second, only sound knowledge concerning reality makes us free from bias and misunderstanding - and only in this respect one is able to link 'Truth' to freedom.

Gravitation - see any encyclopedia. And of course nobody knows what this force actually is. We only know in what circomstances it occurs. The same accounts for electricity, consciousness, etcetera.

[MJA]

Originally Posted by Benedict Broere MJA, You seem to equal TOE to Truth to Freedom. But first: TOE can't be known with absolute certainty, because we have not an absolute view on reality to check it. Second, only sound knowledge concerning reality makes us free from bias and misunderstanding - and only in this respect one is able to link 'Truth' to freedom. Gravitation - see any encyclopedia. And of course nobody knows what this force actually is. We only know in what circomstances it occurs. The same accounts for electricity, consciousness, etcetera.

Clarity can exist only when there is freedom to observe, when one is capable of looking, observing, watching. That is only possible when there is complete, total freedom." -J Krishnamurti

Truth starts with the freedom of equality!

MJA

[Benedict Broere]

Hello MJA,
I'm sorry it took a while, but I needed the inspiration.

This:

Originally Posted by MJA Truth starts with the freedom of equality!

I don't know what is meant by this. At least, insight in TOE won't give you freedom. And yes of course, someone who thinks he is on top of TOE will experience a kind of extacy, similar to the experience you get when you listen to for instance Strawinsky's 'Firebird' (especially in the interpretation of Tomita): riding the universe, looking through all things, seeing it's birth, it's growth, it's future. But than unstoppable the magic fades away, and you step outside and experience you still get wet because of the rain - and we have lot's of rain these days.

I think we have to be carefull not to hypostasise TOE into some kind of magical formula, that will turn you into some kind of God. We are part of the system, we are a sub-system, we might see glimpses of eternity, but we still remain subjected to the workings of time and space and everything in that.

Also man is a very varied species, with the effect that there still are people who think the earth is flat and forms the center of everything. You see, knowledge is for few, and TOE - when there - is for the very few. When discovered, it won't give some global event, no halleluja all over the planet, no getting rid of all the problems humans face in everyday life. It will just be the hobby of the very very interested. And maybe on the long run it will do something beneficial, for... well, ok... for the planet, life, us.

PS. K. is right of course. The case 'Gallileo Gallilei' proves it.

Regards

[MJA]

Thanks BB,

Freedom starts with an open mind.
With freedom comes an infinite, immeasurable universe.
Life without the confines of uncertain measure is nature's truth of equality or oneness or TOE.

It's not my truth, it's nature's truth.
It cannot be owned, only shared.
I hope that helps
The future of equality is the cure for everything!

Thanks again,

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MJA