a fundamental requirement to legitimate TOE

[W.GUGLINSKI]

There is a fundamental requirement, in general neglected, that any TOE must satisfy:

A successful TOE must be able to explain the Don Borghi's experiment

The Don Borghi's experiment can be seen in the two links bellow:

DON BORGHI'S EXPERIMENT:
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Don_Borghi%27s_experiment

DISCUSSION:
http://www.chemicalforums.com/index.php?topic=17140.0

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[Profpat]

Hi W Guglinski;

Welcome to the Toequest forum. I think through experiments the proton and electron has coverted to a neutron and Ve. I'm posting a little section from Wiki, for you to look at. My Idea also equates the proton/electron with a neutron.

However, protons are known to transform into neutrons through the process of electron capture. This process does not occur spontaneously but only when energy is supplied. with protons
where
p is a proton, e is an electron, n is a neutron, and νe is an electron neutrino The process is reversible: neutrons can convert back to protons through beta decay, a common form of radioactive decay.

Best to you,

Pat

[W.GUGLINSKI]

Pat,

the inverse beta decay (in which an electron is captured by a proton) requires a very high quantity of energy. It occurs within nuclei only.
Such phenomenon is agree to Quantum Mechanics

Unlike, in the case of Don Borghi's experiment and Conte-Pieralice experiment, the fusion proton-electron forming a neutron occurs at low energy (and not within any nucleus).
Such phenomenon is disagree to Quantum Mechanics. That's why Don Borghi's experiment and Conte-Pieralice experiment are not accepted by the scientific community, since they defy the Quantum Mechanics foundatoins.
That’s why the Nobel Laureate Dr. G. t’ Hooft said: “There is much more wrong with n=p+e, but most of all the fact that the ‘experimental evidence’ is phony”.
The most theorists are deceiving themselves, because instead of facing the experiments that defy Quantum Mechanics it's easier to refuse to face the truth: that something is wrong with the foundations of Modern Physics, and there are some fundamental laws missing in the current theories yet.
Of course you cannot expect that Dr. t’Hooft could confess that some unknown fundamental laws are missing in the Foundations of Physics from which he developed his mathematical formalism and awarded his Noble Prize.

Therefore, any canditate to be a successful TOE must be able to explain the three experiments: Don Borghi, Conte-Pieralice, Taleyarkhan.
Sure that it’s confortable to neglect such a fact, as the most theorists use to do.
However sure that a satisfactory and successful TOE cannot be obtained from such a neglection used as a strategy by the theorists.
After all, the theorists can bamboozle themselves, but they cannot bamboozle the Nature, which will continue disproving all the theoretical attempts developed by such an unsatisfactory procedure.

regards
WLAD

[neutralino]

I think more importantly, this experiment needs to be verified before one makes any wild claims. Why, one might ask, was this experiment conducted in the 1980's (according to your link) and published in 1992. Such an experiment must be conducted several times, in several different labs before taking it as true. I imagine that is the reason that theorists are discounting it.

[Profpat]

Hi Wlad;

Actually as i mentioned before my Idea embraces the thought of the proton and neutron being able to convert to one another. If you are interested you can view it at;
( http://www.toequest.com/forum/your-t...03-idea-4.html ) you'll have to scroll down 8 posts to #40. I think you may find it interesting. Easy to understand but speculative. Any questions or comments you could post at that site.

Best to you,

Pat

[W.GUGLINSKI]

Neutralino,

I think more importantly, this experiment needs to be verified before one makes any wild claims.

Of course. Since if verified and accepted by the scientific community, such confirmation will require a deep review in the foundations of Modern Physics, and to establish a fundamental requirement for TOE.


Why, one might ask, was this experiment conducted in the 1980's (according to your link) and published in 1992.

I dont see any mistery in here. The experiment required several years to be improved. And obviously Don Borghi and his crew wanted to be sure of their results, before publishing a paper. Besides, they had to look for an editor interested to publish the paper (probably the paper was rejected by other journals).



Such an experiment must be conducted several times, in several different labs before taking it as true. I

You're right. So, as the experiment is so important, because he can change the way from which Modern Physics is being developed, then the physicist would have to be interest to repeat the experiment.
However the physicists run away of Don Borghi's experiment as the devil runs away of a cross.


In 2001 I suited in law two Brazillian universities, trying to oblige them to repeat the Don Borghi's experiment in their laboratories. Unfortunatelly the judge pronounced a sentence according to which there is not judicial background to oblige an university to perform any experiment, even if the experiment is of the interest of the science's development

Santilli had previously contacted physics labs in the USA, Europe, Russia and China asking them to test the possibility of a synthesis of neutrons from protons and electrons, but had been consistently rejected:
http://blog.hasslberger.com/2006/09/...trons_fro.html


Santilli made the experiment in the laboratories of his Institure for Basic Research:
Confirmation of Don Borghi's experiment on the synthesis of neutrons from protons and electrons:
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2006physics...8229S

[neutralino]

There's clearly going to be a reason that the universities declined to undertake the experiment and, no, you cannot force a university to perform an experiment!

Besides, that paper you link to does not say that neutrons are formed, but "neutral hadron size entities." I wonder if the article to which you link was ever published anywhere?

[W.GUGLINSKI]

Neutralino,

I proposed to the nuclear chemist Mitch to repeat the Conte-Pieralice experiment, as you may realize in the link:
http://www.chemicalforums.com/index.php?topic=17140.0


Don Borghi's experiment and Conte-Pieralice experiment are two different versions of the same experiment.

I proposed to Mitch to repeat the Conte-Pieralice because it is easier to be performed. Unlike, Don Borghi's experiment requires several months of collectiong data

Do you think Mitch will perform it ?

[neutralino]

After seeing the way that that thread has gone on the above linked forum, I don't really wish to continue this discussion!

[W.GUGLINSKI]

and, no, you cannot force a university to perform an experiment!


Neutralino,
the Brazillian Constitution prescribes that all the Brazillian universities need to devote themselves to the development of science.
So, the judge actually betrayed the Brazillian Constitution. There is a conspiracy of the physicists against the scientific method.