The answer

[1plus1]

I've come to such a pointof figuring and thinking and postulating and researching and I've finally found it. This is how it is:

Think of nothing as some thing that is no thing, because if nothing isn't anything, we wouldn't have a name for it. Nothing as a some thing that is no thing is "the one exception to every rule" that everyone says exists. . Disregard all notions of what nothing connotates to you and there's your anwser. Nothing can be done about finding a theory of everything because thats the answer, nothing. Nothing can stop you from sleeping in and never working because that's the answer, nothing. Nothing can stop anything from happening because that's the answer, nothing. If the literal meaning of nothing happened, everything can't happen; no thing can happen. If you do nothing about trying to find the answer to everything, the TOE, you're doing nothing because you don't care if you find it or not, therefore eliminating any need at all to find any sort of TOE. Maybe there is an answer, maybe there isn't. Maybe there is a TOE, maybe there isn't. If you did nothing about it, there's your answer. What says that the laws of physics can be broken? Nothing, therefore, if you think of nothing as a thing that is no thing, only nothing can break the laws of physics, which can be simply put as nothing can break the laws of physics. I think our problem is is that we put emphasis on the wrong word in sentences like, nothing can change the future when it should be: nothing can change the future.... Am I making any sense or non-sense?. And if i'm making non-sense, does saying I'm making non-sense make sense? Because if it does, I must still be making some sense, so you can't say I'm making no sense at all, when it would make sense that i'm making non-sense.

[1plus1]

One thing I find that works is doing the exact opposite to get to a conclusion, kind of like saying if you go as fast as C, then time stops, but if you go as slow as absolute zero, time stops. Over the past few months i've lost a zippo, a silver quarter (25 cent piece), a cordless phone, the start of my TOE, and some rare earth magnets. Each one of those things i've tried looking for everywhere in my house, yeilding no results, they were gone forever. Then one night I had an awakening to the fact of doing the exact opposite of the normal way of doing things, ie scratching lottery tickets, arguing etc., yeilded better better results than if you just do things normally. So after not finding any of these things, i stopped looking, instead of looking everywhere, I looked nowhere, instead of caring, I didn't care. But it was only after i knew i didnt care and that i didn't even want to looking, that i wasn't just fooling myself (you have to actually beleive you don't care) that all of the things turn up that i had lost. not only that, they turned up in places that I have explicit memory of extensively searching through. I have no other explanation as to how i didn't find them before other than it must be how you go about looking do you find the answer. Look nowhere for the TOE, because it is nowhere that the TOE is. Nothing is not any 1 thing, it's 0 things. Everywhere is all things, yet all things cancel out to 0. Does that notmean that nothing is everything? isn't that true? No thing is everything, and Everything is no thing, right?

[austintorn@aol.com]

The information content of everything is the same as that of nothing: 0.

See the Vault of Everything:

http://www.toequest.com/forum/toe-th...ault#post67676

[dleviwing]

You’ll always find what you have lost in the last place you look.
You are very strange 1plus1!

We already have a theory of nothing on the forum.

[Mohan.C]

1plus1,
I just got one question. Did you find out that no thing is everything and everything is no thing without even trying to find a solution? Because I'll bet you that you didn't, You hacked your brains to relate all the things that exist and how they behave. And then you find out that finally everything comes down to no thing.
So, what's wrong with hacking our brains also for a little while. May be we can spot something that has been missed on the way. Or even if we do come to the same solution, we may find something else along the way that can be applied or used.

Accepting without questioning, I think, can mar creativity,
So, till we understand we can always question ourselves, usually, till we find an answer to ourselves.

[1plus1]

in response to dleviwing:

the things i stated i have lost, i haven't found by looking though. I found them by accepting they will never come back, it was only then mixed with forgetting about losing those items, that i've found them.

For mohan C.:
this might be my limited abilities or whatever, but i don't really understand your post... can you try putting it in other words (sorry i just can't make sense of it, it's not your fault, but mine) because i dont get what you mean by finding out no thing is everything, and vice versa, without finding a solution...

I beleive there is one exception to every rule, which i just realized can apply to everything, including the idea of everything and nothing. Everything is no thing except one thing, everything, and nothing is no thing except one thing, nothing.

[1plus1]

to austin, actually, nothing is still something or else we wouldn't be able to give it a term, so if its still something, then it's value should be 1. everything, nothing included, is zero because all of everything, even the actual idea of no thing, not even nothing, perfectly cancels out to zero. i beleive the nothing we think of is similar to the realm of infinite universes that have anti-matter as it's dominant particle characteristic, but even then, thats still something, kind of like (+infinite unverses)+(- infinite universes) = 0. the real 'nothing' is having no universe of any kind with any characteristics. No true vaccum, no particles, literallyno conceiveable thing whatsoever, not even the nothing that is no thing except one thing, nothing.

[austintorn@aol.com]

"Santa Claus" and the "Easter Bunny" are terms, for we can invent and label anything, even what is not there, such as 'nothing'.

A 'nothing' that could do something, like divide itself into plus and minus, would not be a true 'nothing', for something, even as potential, would be there, such as the Chicago Cubs being able to win the World Series of Baseball.

[timeparticle]

One thing I find that works is doing the exact opposite to get to a conclusion, kind of like saying if you go as fast as C, then time stops, but if you go as slow as absolute zero, time stops. Over the past few months i've lost a zippo, a silver quarter (25 cent piece), a cordless phone, the start of my TOE, and some rare earth magnets. Each one of those things i've tried looking for everywhere in my house, yeilding no results, they were gone forever. Then one night I had an awakening to the fact of doing the exact opposite of the normal way of doing things, ie scratching lottery tickets, arguing etc., yeilded better better results than if you just do things normally. So after not finding any of these things, i stopped looking, instead of looking everywhere, I looked nowhere, instead of caring, I didn't care. But it was only after i knew i didnt care and that i didn't even want to looking, that i wasn't just fooling myself (you have to actually beleive you don't care) that all of the things turn up that i had lost. not only that, they turned up in places that I have explicit memory of extensively searching through. I have no other explanation as to how i didn't find them before other than it must be how you go about looking do you find the answer. Look nowhere for the TOE, because it is nowhere that the TOE is. Nothing is not any 1 thing, it's 0 things. Everywhere is all things, yet all things cancel out to 0. Does that notmean that nothing is everything? isn't that true? No thing is everything, and Everything is no thing, right?

Hey, that's funny. I was digging a hole in my back yard, yesterday, and I found a quarter, a cordless phone, earth magnets and a Penthouse, Jan. 1989.
Are these yours, do ya think? The title of the Penthouse magazine is "To Get Everything, You Need Nothing."

TP

[1plus1]

again to austin, quantum theory states that even though it seems impossible for some things to be real, such as santa or the easter bunny, in reality, it's only overwhelmingly improbable that they would exist anywhere (anywhere meaning at any point in time, in any of the infinite universes), not impossible, thats why we can label them. i beleive that even though we don't consciously know things, at least our soul, or inner eye, does. theres a famous story of how a bunch of indians saw ripples in th water near their shore, yet no explanation for them. they went to their shaman and he, being one with all, a healer, medium, etc., saw that the ripples were because boats of early european explorers were coming. after he explained to them the idea of something that seemd impossible, they saw the boats too. i beleive this is similar to how our brains work in accordance to our inner eye, since it is connected to the zeropoint feild, our soul knows that everything can exist, yet most of us have strayed so far, disconnected our brains from our inner eyes, we just can't beleive that things that are impossible are actually possible, unless someone else does it for us, otherwise known as The Egg of Columbus. The Egg of Columbus is a story of how a charletain peasant, in a room full of "highly intellectual" people and presented them with a challenge: to make a full egg stand on its end and not fall over. They took his challenge, trying to prove to him they know how to do it, but try as they might, they did not prevail. it was only then did the charletain take the egg, tap the end he intended to stand the egg on on the table, so as to make it flat, and it stood up. At first they told him he was wrong because he cracked the egg, but he kindly reminded them that all he said was make a whole egg stand on end, because in no way did any of the egg break off. This is what is happening all the time with our brains, we don't look at things the right way, we don't listen the right way, we just can't figure it out until someone else does it. but isn't that a paradox? if no one can do it until someone else does it, how could anyone ever possibly do it? it is the person that sees the simplicity, looks the right way, listens the right way, that lets his inner eye, or his gut(oohhh gut also stands for grand unified theory, weird huh?) reaction guide his brain. its our inner self, inner eye or soul that should be teaching us, but most of us somehow think that we should be teaching our soul, we should be the ones to teach our soul right and wrong, as if we somehow have the power to change what is actually right and wrong. but just because something is true doesn't make it right, likewise, just because something is false doesn't make it wrong. in accordance to nothing, there is no right and wrong, because those ideas come from perceptions that we've been altering, albeit unknowingly, since we first could think. plus the fact that there is no actual thing, any thing you see is a combination of smaller things, and if you see those smaller things, they're just a combination of even smaller things and so on and so forth. there is only one true thing. nothing.