Philosophysics of a fundamental substance

[Lloyd Gillespie]

My current hypothesis is similar to measuring distance with the propagation of light ie light-year. It's just measuring 4D intervals with the motions of a volume of FS. The complexity and diversity of these motions within the volume only point to different intervals within the 4D matrix, and not the inconsistency of its ability to be used as a dimension of measurement. If we reach an fundamental level to prove that such is necessary for the consistency of existence we recognize with our sciences, and we prove that only a deterministic system could provide such consistency whereby allowing for this needed function, then we have ruled out indeterminism as an option to the functioning of this motion model paradigm. This is the only way that such unanswerable questions can be answered, by defining the consequences of their absence within the system. Any indeterminism within the motions of fundamental matter and the system possibly collapses. IMHO, this requires thinking on the deepest of levels and asking one's self how much of their paradigm is taken for granted and undefined in the sense of implied concepts.

But, but, but__Vr is indeterninancy/uncertainty, creating chance motions within Va and Vu__Eternally... Your fundamental motion theory must include all right, left and opposite handed chiral possibilities__and this is where the chance uncertainty and asymmetries exist__eternally necessarily... Opposing chiral waves are absolutely required to create chance knotting and de-knotting, within Va = Vu + Vr...

Absolute fundamental opposite-handedness must be thoroughly understood__This is the source eigenvector space of all Vr__as deep as the mind can investigate Absolute Fundamental Quantum Motion...


"The above schematic offers insight into the operation of the In-Fiber Linear Polarizer. Incoming vertically polarized light is converted into an elliptically polarized component of the same handedness as the chiral structure while being scattered out of the fiber. In contrast, horizontally polarized light is converted into elliptically polarized light of opposite handedness and back to horizontal polarization and is freely transmitted by the structure."

See the above as a fundamental Chiral Scattering of Va + Vu into Vr__i.e., Chiral Randomness... Though Opposite-Handed Chirality is outnumbered, two to one, it still absolutely exists at the FS's most fundamental motion states__thus being the Exist of A Triad State of Va = Vu + Vr, or 2 Left, 2 Right & 2 Opposite...


A further example with opposite-handed springs__they will not screw together, without interferrence, or as suggested, a fundamental knot-tying fundamental motion of the FS creating random scattering...

[Lloyd Gillespie]

Vr is only considered random due to the micro scales and velocities at which it acts coupled with its destructive nature relative to structure. Dave once implied that if he had an instrument that measured at the velocity of absolute motion all uncertainty would disappear. I'm implying that what is random motion Vr to us with our limited abilities to observe is still deterministic, causal and purposeful relative to the entire volume which contains it, in the sense that all 4D points of separation require exact ratios of Vr to Vu evolving through elapsed motions to define the dimensional distance by which they are separated.

True, until you come to bio-eras. The wild deer won't let us partially deterninistic hunters, walk up to him, konk him over the head, and take him home to fry and eat__He by indeterministic choice, chance and free-will, at his time of choosing__Runs away... Imo, you've got to keep the whole in context, or your definements drift too far into a science that can't be interpreted as scientific, by a universal community of viewers/interpreters/understanders... One must always realize, similar but different fundamental motions apply to both the geo and bio eras__and we are using bio-brains to interpret all the informations__thus distinguishments are always necessary...

You're measuring absolute spatial distances with matter, whereby the lack of this ability within the system may cause inconsistencies destructive to our ability to do such consistent things as imply a speed limit to light or view similarly formed galaxies separated by seemingly vast distances relative to us.

I think you should be careful here Tim, in using ideas and theories that really have no grounded proofs yet. We yet have no evidence of any motions exceeding c, and neither do I think we ever will, and as to those great distances, they may also be tired light__We don't yet know. And especially since so many physicists have jumped on the newest craze of dark matter and dark energy, without realizing it was Fritz Zwicky, the tired light astromomer/cosmologist/physicist, who came up with all these theories, back in the `20's and `30's, as counter-ideas against Hubble...

Tired light...
When Edwin Hubble discovered a linear relationship between the distance to a galaxy and its redshift expressed as a velocity, Zwicky immediately speculated that the effect was due not to motions of the galaxy, but to some inexplicable phenomena that mysteriously caused photons to lose energy as they traveled through space. He considered the most likely candidate process to be a drag effect in which photons transfer momentum to surrounding masses though gravitational interactions; and proposed that an attempt be made to put this effect on a sound theoretical footing with general relativity. He also considered and rejected explanations involving interactions with free electrons, or the expansion of space.

Zwicky was skeptical of the expansion of space in 1929, because the rates measured at that time seemed too large. It was not until 1956 that Walter Baade corrected the distance scale based on Cepheid variable stars, and ushered in the first accurate measures of the expansion rate. Cosmological redshift is now conventionally understood to be a consequence of the expansion of space; a feature of Big Bang cosmology.

[labelwench]

This posting relates to the deer that Lloyd just mentioned and it is demonstrating free will.

All participants recovered fine, I was advised by the sender.

Interesting interactions between all species.

http://www.youtube.com/user/fsubra

[Graybeard]

Vr is only considered random due to the micro scales and velocities at which it acts coupled with its destructive nature relative to structure.

Dave once implied that if he had an instrument that measured at the velocity of absolute motion all uncertainty would disappear.

I'm implying that what is random motion Vr to us with our limited abilities to observe is still deterministic, causal and purposeful relative to the entire volume which contains it, in the sense that all 4D points of separation require exact ratios of Vr to Vu evolving through elapsed motions to define the dimensional distance by which they are separated.

Don't mind me being pedantic. But .........

According to Dave (Va = Vu) is symmetrical, (Va = Vr) is asymmetrical (and may not be possible) , and (Va = (Vu +Vr)) is asymmetrical

So when you say that we measure Vr as asymmetrical (undeterministic, acausal, and non-relative) and that these measurements are limited by our technological ability ... then the inescapable conclusion is that Vr is symmetrical ... but our measurements show asymmetry.

We are measuring an symmetrical substance with asymmetrical observations or instruments.

In other words if we had 'an instrument that measured at the velocity of absolute motion' all asymmetry would disappear.

To me this is the only conclusion that can be reached from your post ?? Otherwise determinism cannot exist.

Vr will never disappear to us completely due to the limitations of our instruments

Ques: Do you agree, therefore, that asymmetry does not exist ??


Sorry for the hard one .... greg

[Graybeard]

But, but, but__Vr is indeterninancy/uncertainty, creating chance motions within Va and Vu__Eternally... Your fundamental motion theory must include all right, left and opposite handed chiral possibilities__and this is where the chance uncertainty and asymmetries exist__eternally necessarily... Opposing chiral waves are absolutely required to create chance knotting and de-knotting, within Va = Vu + Vr...

Absolute fundamental opposite-handedness must be thoroughly understood__This is the source eigenvector space of all Vr__as deep as the mind can investigate Absolute Fundamental Quantum Motion...

A further example with opposite-handed springs__they will not screw together, without interferrence, or as suggested, a fundamental knot-tying fundamental motion of the FS creating random scattering...

Good Post ....... Feynman solution follows ......... lmao

Dear Graybeard,

OK. I try to agree that hydrogen (matter) permanently exist, while anti-hydrogen (anti-matter) temporary exist. And what is next?

Sincerely,
Nimit
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www.vacuum-mechanics.com .

Thank you Nimit.

Matter and anti-matter are two forms of matter. Neither has a 'reality' over the other. Neither is temporary, or both are temporary. We prefer, and are familiar with, matter ... but this is subjective because we are made from it. But anti-matter is just as 'legitimate'.

Regarding matter in its mirror image form (not anti-matter). At first it was believed that they were identical ... that is a 'left-hand-drive' car would behave the same as a 'right-hand-drive' car ...two clocks, one built as a mirror image of the other would both keep the same time. Left cannot (by Physical Laws) be distinguished from right and north cannot be distinguished from south.

In other words by flipping all 3 spatial co-ordinates there is no change under the Laws of Physics. Reflexion Symmetry.

The idea that this may not be true was slowly growing through the first half of the last century and it was suggested that parity may not be conserved. But this was not taken seriously until the Lee-Yang experiment in 1957. Basically the Lee-Yang experiment showed that only the left-handed attributes of particles and the right-handed attributes of anti-particles participate in Weak interactions. it was shown that parity is conserved by the EM force, Gravity, and the Strong Nuclear force ... but not the Weak Nuclear force.

This led Feynman to propose the following hypothesis:

That if we were to build a clock out of matter (wot else ?) and also to construct another clock (out of matter) as a mirror image of the original then these two clocks would keep different time. It can be easily shown that you must also reverse north-south poles as surely as you reverse all the spatial co-ordinates in a mirror image according to the laws of magnetism and current flow.

The two clocks would record different times. One would count less electrons ejected from the cobalt than the other. This turns out to be true for all matter ? Parity is not respected by the Weak Force. Reflexion symmetry does not hold.



Feynman's hypothesis is that matter comes in all 4 forms .... following diagrams.



If matter <> antimatter (or mirror-image-matter and mirror-image-anti-matter) contact they annihilate, (presumably because they are symmetrical and opposite) [below]



Matter and Mirror-image-matter interact freely and normally (in fact the observable universe is probably made up of both ?) [below]



But Matter and Mirror-image-anti-matter do not interact at all (nor mirror-image-matter and anti-matter) They have the same attributes. [below]




And, in a roundabout way, symmetry is restored by this hypothesis.

These are the components that make up the Universe and the non-interacting parts are candidates for Dark matter/Dark energy. The fact that they do not appear in equal quantities may have its roots in the evolution of the Universe in the first few nano-seconds.

This was proposed by Feynman.

Wot do you think ?

cool bananas ... greg

[labelwench]

Regardless of how the hypothesis proves out, I commend you for clarity of explanation, and great visuals.

[Graybeard]

Regardless of how the hypothesis proves out, I commend you for clarity of explanation, and great visuals.

I am afraid that you are the only one that will think that clarity is present ..... lmao.

Ta! ..... greg

[Lloyd Gillespie]

Good Post ....... Feynman solution follows ......... lmao

cool bananas ... greg

Greg, please take a good long look at these two springs__They are not left__They are not right__They are not mirror images__They are opposite-handed. This is what most theorists miss__There exists no mirror possibilities for these shapes, opposing each other__They don't fit, yet the Universe is full of em. Now, see them as metaphors for fundamental Vr, asymmetric em-wave motions__Not anti-em's__Real em-wave inter-actions, that must tie knots in the fields, thus forming the condensations of FS... Also realize the mirror image lefts and rights also exist opposing each symmetrically...




Feynman needed more schooling...!!!

[Graybeard]

I am unsure what you mean .... if we arbitrarily label one spring as 'left wound' then the other is 'right wound'. If we label one as wound 'up' then the other is wound 'down' ..... I don't get what you are saying .. ?? what am I missing ... there is no difference between these two and the two solenoid coils in my drawing attached ??

I am afraid that I only see a mirror image in your example ?? If you look at them from the top one appears as anti-clockwise thread and the other clockwise ... ??

Is it an Escher type drawing ?? ..... its not that I don't accept what your saying, but I am missing something in the graphic ... when I trace one against the other I just come up with a mirror image ?

Also no offence ... but making claims like 'Feynman needed more schooling' ...... ???? No one believes this sort of remark ... I feel you only damage your own image by this.

cool bananas ... greg

[Graybeard]

Lloyd

If you 'see' in your example what I 'see' in mine ... then the result is the same ... and we are on the same track ... just using different visuals ??

greg