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    Re: Philosophysics of a fundamental substance

    4) How come squirrels run under cars?

    Is it a Southern Amazon Red Squirrel and is the car moving or parked?

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    Re: Philosophysics of a fundamental substance

    Quote Originally Posted by austintorn@aol.com View Post
    Tough questions?

    1) Would our size scale be absolute, infinite at the large end, but limited to the Planck size at the small end?

    2) Or, still absolute even if there is the infinitely small?

    3) Does our finite realm exist only at the midpoint of the infinitely large and small?

    4) How come squirrels run under cars?

    1. It's limited by Planck time at the condensed stage limits of cyclical interactions and perhaps by Planck's constant or the quanta by which motion changes states at the expanded stage limits with a midpoint established by the two of E=M or the amount of Planck energy currently arising from the smallest micro scale of wave interactions to impart linear motion per system distribution and mass value at the macro scale due to our acknowledgement of a fully interconnected system with a quantum membrane.

    2. When can imply absolute time and space due to absolute motion conservation of FS, which is an absolute distance over absolute time factor.

    3. The large is an ever further construction of the interactions of the small. Quantum wave mechanics are the motion entropy mechanics. For further explanation refer to answer 1.

    4. Because they're stupid. Lmao.

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    Re: Philosophysics of a fundamental substance

    One of the more interesting implications of this model is considering the inverted light cone to be an absolute time come whereby as we increase the radius from a structured system throughout the field, the quantum interactions acting upon the structure which account for it's present motions are increasingly representing past quantum states and motion distribution values of the increasingly greater spatially seperated system due to the transference of gravitational waves being limited by a conserved motion value.

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    Re: Philosophysics of a fundamental substance

    Quote Originally Posted by Graybeard View Post
    Whereas you have descended from the Angels. You hav ta make allowance for us lesser beings wiv smaller brains...cool bananas ... greg
    Btw Greg, welcome back...

    And no angels, just learned to respect intelligence and the logic of... There's two things about intelligence and logic__neither function properly without respect, and intelligence is simply recognizing others' innate intelligence, and using your own innate intellegence of respect, to respect others' innate intelligence and logic__where logic is no more than recognizing the truths and falsnesses of statements. Academic logic is outside this first realm of natural innate systems' thinking and acting__but, does not function honestly either, unless the first innate processes are respected...

    If you'd stop barging in like a bull-dozer in a china-closet__every time, and aclimatize yourself to the thread you're invading__you'd have better luck...

    The conversation seems to be about all Universal Mass Systems, FS, Absolute Motion and a search for all these interactions' most absolute mechanics__imo...

    We're not debating the trivialities of academic text-books' definitions__We know a lot of that is useless, for our purposes...

    We're still working in most of the fundamentals of DaveW's wave mechanics, with some extras added by Tim and myself, while Graham is working on the complex inner mechanics of wave motions...

    Most of our ramblings are purely theoretical, except where sound physics and the laws of, demand us to stay within those parameters...

    At times, we are discussing outside those scientific parameters, but we are stating our conjectures, when they are conjectures...

    It's a simple general discussion of the three models Dave, myself and Tim have developed, over the years__and trying to fit all these seemingly different parts together, into what I would really consider 'The Mass Mechanics of The Entire Universe...' At least, that's from my scope of what I see developing...

    Anyone's welcome to participate, and I think Tim would agree and want everyone to participate__but, please read enough of the thread to learn what we are discussing, at the level we are talking__so everyone can be on, at the least, close to the same page...

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    Re: Philosophysics of a fundamental substance

    This gets into the cosmological 'horizon' problem whereby though currently seperated by distances which disallow communication due to speed limits of c relating all internal change, the changing mass value of the system maintained relative equal seperation throught the expansion process due to the consideration of near mass equilibrium troughout the field by way of the mechanics of the quantum field. Or so I further theorize.

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    Re: Philosophysics of a fundamental substance

    In answer to the squirrel query, may I suggest that from the perspective of the squirrel, the world is likely a considerably more simple and also more complex environment to survive in, never mind comprehend.

    Yet, in their own way, they are quite intelligent. Forgive me fellows, but I just gotta......

    So many paths to the same destination,
    would, but I could, experience them all...

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    Re: Philosophysics of a fundamental substance

    Massive structures could theoretically be considered as the universes way of adjusting it's timing of phase alignment due to the Planck time requirements for such phase alignment when the entire volume reaches it's condensed stage of the cycle with high frequency short wavelngth interactions. Interactive symmetry was never broken but each cycle will find itself more less near phase alignment with varying lower limits of condensation and expansion of each cycle. Just a thought.

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    Re: Philosophysics of a fundamental substance

    Quote Originally Posted by analog View Post
    This gets into the cosmological 'horizon' problem whereby though currently seperated by distances which disallow communication due to speed limits of c relating all internal change, the changing mass value of the system maintained relative equal seperation throught the expansion process due to the consideration of near mass equilibrium troughout the field by way of the mechanics of the quantum field. Or so I further theorize.
    Yes Tim, but we also have to recognize that each unstructured and structured volume of space, all have their individual masses, functioning within all the mass volumes larger than the smaller volumes, and as say the orbits of whole galaxy clusters, affect/effect others, at differing rates of rotations, say with the example of Andromeda being the closest to the next cluster, at one period of the cluster orbit, then very distant at another period of its orbit__those mass values are constantly changing__as they are for all mass volumes, withing the entire Universe... With present physics, we'd call this Relative mass relations, but I prefer to work within the absolute mass relationships of actual mass mechanics, as per Newton, where I actually learned my 'mass' knowledge... Iyo, does a system take on mass of other larger systems, as the distance reduces, to the smaller system__say Earth and Jupiter...??? The true answer to this question may give us a further window into the mass mechanics, and gravity's true functioning...

    As to what you stated above, I see it as a relational system of mass and gravity transfers of systems to systems__all throughout the system... That whole system approach is just science fiction, as per its 'action at a distance non-sense, imo...' The true system of mass and gravity interactions would simply be through the inter-relational transfers of systems to systems, thus the Universal mass and gravity actions, within c__always... The only general Universal would be pure motion, say of a conjectured big-bang expansion, yet then too, it's still the inter-independence of all the radiating systems, adding to the fundamental field's expansions in all areas of the space volumes... So imo, it's still quite an independent(action-emission-reaction) system, even if generally within, an inter-dependent system, dependent(action-absorbsion-reaction) on the total of 'Universal Motion Flows...

    And the mathematical complexity to doing the above math relationships is impossible, except with our general mathematical relationship maths, such as E = MC^2 and Va = Vu + Vr, etc., and all the other variable Universal laws and formulas, offered through the centuries, such as Pythagoras' and Archimedes' with a^2 + b^2 = c^2, and the center of mass formula; L1M1 = L2M2, to Newtons three 'Universal Laws and Formulas of... The math problems arise when ya start applying fixed functions to these general Universal variables__Which is completely unnecessary... The trick is to either find more and new 'Universal Variable Formulas and Laws', or use the old tried and true 'Universal Variable Formulas and Laws...

    The only Universal communication is through your galaxy cluster neighbors(as having highest mass/gravity affects/effects), and the visible light coming from all through c-motion over c-distance possibilities of... All these systems' mechanics must be understood, more as to their independencies, than as to their dependences__dependencies of actions increase with proximity at the rate of the inverse square law, as do the independencies of actions decrease with proximity at the rate of the inverse square law... These are the factual laws far too many people have more recently ignored, for the foolish 'New-Age Physics...'

    Don't know if that helps,
    But anyway...
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    Re: Philosophysics of a fundamental substance

    Quote Originally Posted by analog View Post
    Massive structures could theoretically be considered as the universes way of adjusting it's timing of phase alignment due to the Planck time requirements for such phase alignment when the entire volume reaches it's condensed stage of the cycle with high frequency short wavelngth interactions. Interactive symmetry was never broken but each cycle will find itself more less near phase alignment with varying lower limits of condensation and expansion of each cycle. Just a thought.
    Hi Tim... I think you may be giving a bit more conjecture here, than is really possible for us to scientifically know__No...??? Since we can't see into the exact state changing conditions totally yet__I don't feel it's possible to state whether the Universe can conserve all state cycle changes, within a single Universal volume, or not__I'd guess it can, and thus maintains the conservation of all the Universal Laws, by doing just such... I'm just conjecturing, but I think the Universal System is a functioning closed system__though I have theorized on both sides of the balance of the Universal Laws...

    At the same time, I once theorized each cycle as an ever increasing build of the fundamental materials through greater volume explosions, into ever heavier single star states__collapse__regenerate new systems__collapse, etc., on and on throughout the early cycles, say billions of cycles ago__but that just sends us into an infinite regress of unknowable conjectures... Thus, I've settled on just one full cycle to explain the Universal Mechanics, as that's a longer time/distance scale than I can almost not imagine... I'd suggest one at a time, then expand from there__after the first cycle is completed__No...???
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    Re: Philosophysics of a fundamental substance

    Morning Lloyd,

    I'm not sure where you was aiming the 'science fiction' and 'nonsense' part of your post, but I agree with your implication of the inverse square law of dependency and independency as I see the intensity of wave motions between systems lessening per the inverse square relationship, but they are still residual to some degree within distant areas of the system, as with having to use ever larger telescopes to see stars of equal luminance at further distance outward, yet a residual amount of their EM radiation can be concentrated on a large and smooth enough mirror to produce a low resolution image of the state of that system at distant times of the past.

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