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    Re: Philosophysics of a fundamental substance

    What is an explosion within such a model if not an
    imbalance of inner wave forces pushing outward vs outward wave forces pushing inward whereby a gain of substance within the system, thus increase in mass, overcomes the external due to greater internal relative to the unstructured field density which is relative to the surrounding mass systems acting upon each other. All the fragmented peices would spew out in a chain reaction of imbalance whereby perhaps being forced into gravitational/electromagnetic systems of greater mass orbit and seperation per mass value. Waves reflect off of structred angular momentum domains the same as photons reflect of structured matter, whereby the frequency value of these reflected waves is proportional to the structures mass. It's not the light that's absorbed which holds the information we need but rather the light which is reflected when we veiw an object and identify it.

    An overly simple model would be quarks being fundamental domains which get clumped together to further orbit each other to form a proton which has a reflective wave value great enough to allow the greater seperation of electrons which are similar fundental structures perhaps only varying in their quantity and motion distribution slightly, whereby they further share orbits and such when found equilizing inward wave forces to the point of chemistry and such. An atomic bomb is perhaps when mass is added to the inner atomic structure due to the bombarding nuetron whereby the external forces are overcome and fracture of structure results in fractile more stabile peices of the whole. Radioactivity is perhaps systems which have so much internal mass that they overcome such external force per quanities of emitted decay. As with black holes, an increase in quantity of FS increases surface area proportionally whereby increasing the amount of external incoming waves acting upon the surface, which is the bases for seperating the same function or system dynamic into strong, EM and gravitational forces with weak having been acounted for on the ratio of inner and outer force equalization previously suggested.

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    Re: Philosophysics of a fundamental substance

    Hey Tim, I think you'd have to slow that post down, and explain a bit more lengthy, for me to follow it... I don't know, but I've read it three times, and I know you know what you mean, but I can't quite get the meaning...

    Black holes don't explode__they spew from their poles, as surface tension must be weakest there...

    Here's a question for ya Tim, as It's always puzzled me: How would you explain the odd number positioning of the 92 electrons, whirring around the 92 protons of U235...??? And, I ain't even asking about the 140+ neutrons, unless they've got something to do with the positioning of the electrons, which they probably do...???
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    Re: Philosophysics of a fundamental substance

    Lol....will do shortely. Was in a rush. Mainly though I see an external and internal wave pressure as necessary for field/medium dynamics which determines structural stability. Black holes are more radioactive in a sense at a higher structural level perhaps.

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    Re: Philosophysics of a fundamental substance

    Transverse Waves__A Model Picture...

    "To develop the skill of correct thinking is in the first place to learn what you have to disregard. In order to go on, you have to know what to leave out; this is the essence of effective thinking." Kurt Godel
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    Re: Philosophysics of a fundamental substance

    I've always prefered a compression model vs a bonding model as Imho, the compression model has better dynamic mechanics to more easily account for observed phenomena from particle physics to astrophysics. The only problem with a compression model is how to get the damn thing to compress but not only compress, the structures formed within high spatial density areas such as heavier elements must be able to maintain their structure to some degree if removed from such density and placed within the current vacuum of space. Our current spatial vacuum implies greater internal pressure and less external pressure, but this is where the dynamics of the phases of the cycle come into play running parallel with many of the big bang concepts.
    Let's start from the Planck scale begging of the cycle. At this point, wave condensation is at it's lower limit whereby no further harmonic amplification can take place due to the Planck time constraints of phase alignment and such. Thus, the cycle begins whereby all of the short wavelength high frequency waves begin to decay to ever more lower frequency longer wavelength waves relative to the diameter of the expanding universal volume. If we imply an outer domain of angular momentum whereby outward expansion of the volume is less than c, much of this wave motion would be reflected back inward whereby allowing for homogeneity of the waves decay process. Early on during the initial stage of this process spatial density was high filled with high frequency waves bombarding from all directions and angles, whereby some waves constructively interfered enough to turn small volumes of substance inward in an angular/spin fashion. This state of motion couldn't be recovered from due to the sheer volume of waves sustaining it inward as it's internal domain of unstructured field, though miniscule maintained super high frequncy short wavelength waves proportional to the diameter of the containing angular motion field. These internal waves would be more near the initial state of the beginning of the cycle but with much less quantity of substance involved than the universal system. This is the first stages of uniform motion within the field thus the total mass value of 1 is initially divided.
    At this point, the high spatial density is saturated with these interactions whereby we find the quark-gluon plasma of the BB model. Now these quark systems can't currently be found in isolation due to the further wave decay of our current space. The internal wave forces would be too great for our current unstructured field to maintain due to it's ever increasing wavelength decreasing frequency waves thus lower spatial density phase. However, if these high density quark structures interacted in such a way to be found within a second angular momentum domain, it's relative wave frequencies could maintain the quark structures due to the sheer volume of waves interacting within it's outer boundary and upon it's inner mass quark structures whereby they have now formed a proton which can maintain it's and the quarks structure due to the greater ratio of universal waves which still occupy our current spatial density. Neutrons also formed during this time whereby they were less vulnerable to decay by varying the internal quark interactions per flavour changes. It's merely a ratio of the amount of wave motion within the outer containment inwardly compressing the higher frequency motions of inner structures by greater numbers of waves increasing the frequency of interaction upon the surface area of the inner structure. Simply stated, lower frequency waves can contain higher frequency systems preventing their decay by maintaing a greater quantity of the lower frequency longer wavelenth waves, but if we subject the inner structure to the current spatial environment, it will decay. Thus we have implied a strong force which interacts at short distances.
    It is perhaps at this point that electrons form similar to the mechanics of quark formation, whereby they are a more stable structure with an internal domain of lower frequency waves containable by our current spatial density. Now we're at the stage of BB nucleosynthesis whereby the continued wave decay of the universal system into more lower frequency waves forces the initial structures together as the decay of the neutron to a proton is greatly increased if not absorbed/arranged into an atomic structure. Thus we have found the weak nuclear interaction due to the same compressional dynamics or imbalance thereof.
    The proton and neutron stuctures find themselves being arranged with electrons orbiting them per the reflected/transmitted transverse frequencies radiating from each whereby establishing orbital distance and spin values on the less massive electron structures whereby forming initial isotopes of hydrogen along with lithium, etc. Deuterium and such also form all the way up to beryllium at which point the universal wave density has decreased whereby disallowing any further fussion processes with a decay of any free neutrons to protons. The small surface area of fundamental particles is proportional to the force/wave frequencies we now find acting upon them as we now can imply the electromagnetic force interacting within atomic structures. Spatial density has decreased to the point at this stage whereby disallowing the ability for inward unstructured wave pressure to further condense protons, neutrons and electrons into smaller regions due to the greater amplitude at which they emit transverse waves between each other per their mass value. This is the cooling phase of the BB, however it is opposite within a motion model whereby it is an increase in temeperature or hotter phase.
    Further wave decay forces structured matter into dense spatial regions whereby possibly forming black holes which set up the initial backpressure for the formation of stars whereby the systems dynamics advance to the stage of stellar nucleosynthesis. At this stage we find larger surface areas of particle structures whereby ever longer wavelength lower frequency waves can interact upon there combined surface area as a whole whereby giving them an angular momentum value as a system thus further increasing spatial density within stars to the point to allow for ever shorter wavelength higher frequency waves to be internally interacting with proportional wave pressures due to the same process which formed the quarks, protons etc, whereby reigniting the fusion process to further combine atomic structures into ever heavier elements by overcoming the emitted proton waves to the point of their absorption within ever greater electron domains.
    The accretion of hydrogen and helium from companion stars within the inward gravitational wave domain of another often excellerates the fusion process to the point of novae whereby surface gases are expelled to revert the system to a gravitational equilibrium state. This can also increase gravitational pressure within some stars to the point to allow some them to begin runaway carbon fusion to a point of greater internal pressure whereby the sudden imbalance causes a supernova which ejects the outer layers to bring the stellar structure to a lower mass state of gravitational equilibrium. A supernova also may occur when internal compressional energy for further atomic fusion is dimenished to the point that there is no longer any backpressure in the form of heat/randomized motion whereby the core collapses to a neutron star or black hole whereby ejecting the outer layers to a point of gravitational stability or balance of external inward and internal outward wave forces. Planets form from the remnants of such interactions whereby they are further bound to their parent star by the ever further universal gravitational wave decay which establishes their orbit and spin value per the wave interaction mechanics emitted between them and the star relative to those of the greater universal system.
    This is merely a first run attempt at hypothesizing the dynamics by which a compressional model may establish structures and diversity of observed 'forces' relative to the scale at which such interactions are observed. If we merely establish a means to maintain structure form decay per similar mechanics as those I've suggested then a compressional model has certain advantages over an internally bound model relative to it's ability to explain observed phenomena from the micro to macro interactions. On a side note, fusion is the process of overcoming such internal forces whereby combining structured systems with a proportional release of energy uneeded for further stability which requires such spatial density and the high frequency transverse waves pertaining to such that cold fusion would only be possible by spatially pressurizing structured systems to the degree to allow for such similar to pressures ability to change the boiling point or state change of elements within our environment. This may only come at an energy cost greater than recaptured as a result of the process. I really don't know due to all the conserved forms of 'energy' involved but this is my best guess of the dynamics required from an interpretation of this model, which is just a hypothetical model written in short period of time mostly out of memory and lots of imagination. Lol.

    Later,

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    P.S. This system also predicts the decay of structure back to transverse field wave motions at the end phase of the cycle to recycle due to loss of inward wave pressure.

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    Re: Philosophysics of a fundamental substance

    I'll have to give your question from your previous post some thought Lloyd.

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    Re: Philosophysics of a fundamental substance

    The Chandrasekhar limit is also relative to such wave pressure dynamics within stars, IMO.

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    Re: Philosophysics of a fundamental substance

    We should notice the relationship I'm implying of the recognized 'force' per surface area of the structure involved. Quarks and such are miniscule volumes, thus only high frequency short wavelength waves can contain their internal wave motions by interaction with their outer domain. These frequencies are trapped within the proton structure as they interact with the quarks. Current gravitational waves are of such long wavelengths that they could not accomplish such, whereby explaining the decay of the quark when not within the proton or neutron structure, thus no isolated quarks. Protons and neutrons have increased surface area, thus a longer wavelength external wave system can accomplish the same dynamics whereby we find EM interactions between them and the electron domain, but the electron capture which allows for a proton to convert to a neutron implies an increased spatial density of the neutron to a higher frequency wave interaction between it's inner domain and the outer domain of the quarks with an excess emission as a high velocity neutrino, thus an isolated neutron within gravitational wave pressure of such long wavelength waves only lasts about fifteen minutes whereby it's internal pressure overcomes the external environmental pressure thus causing beta decay back to a proton electron state of structural stability. When these systems further combine to make heavier elements, these elements can become unstable relative to the external EM wave inward compression in the electron domain vs the internal strong nuclear outward force of the protons and neutrons to quark interactions whereby accounting for alpha decay with emission of mass thus reduction to lower structural forms of stability between the two wave frequencies thus 'forces' at play. When ever larger systems such as planets and stars form, the current gravitational wavelengths are sufficient to interact at such scales. Thus, the 'force' observed is relative to the frequency contained within the domain as I am less prone to consider such frequencies as being merely emitted by structured mass systems and more prone to now consider them as merely reflecting these frequencies between systems and their domains. gravitational waves don't have to be emitted between planets and stars due to vibration or interaction within the medium, but could possibly merely reflect the waves caught between the two at amplitudes and frequencies relative to their individual mass values whereby accounting for the inward push of the external waves to a point of gravitational equilibrium.

    Also notice that the system itself went through all wave frequencies from strong frequencies through our current EM frequencies within atomic structures to our current gravitational frequencies which accounts for the chronology of particle structure formation which we now find within the ever decreasing scales of the inner workings of atomic structures. At some early point in the cycle the unstructured field itself supported such high frequency domains but required further combination of structure to maintain those domains due to ever receding frequencies of the entire universal system.

    I could hypothesize a bit on QCD relative to this framework but I'll wait and see if this goes anywhere before I attempt such. Lol

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    Re: Philosophysics of a fundamental substance

    This model also lends itself well to your wave splitting mechanics from the other day Lloyd, as we can now imagine planets further increasing spatial density and frequencies to the point of forming the diversity of compounds and such which establishes us and our planet by way of biology and chemistry. As gravitational frequencies bombard the planet, the waves are chopped up per the surface area of the strctured mass system which they encounter. Thus gravitational waves are reduced to EM wavelengths and frequencies reflecting back and forth between electrons and the nucleus, whereby the protons and neutrons further shorten the wavelengths and increase frequencies reflected between them to the point of absorption with their systems at the ultra high strong force frequencies which interact between the quarks and are possibly radiated per your theorizing.

    Later,

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    Re: Philosophysics of a fundamental substance

    Much the same as we would take a core sample of layers of the earth to learn about the environment and atmospheric conditions during the past years when such conditions were preserved within layers of the earth's crust, structured matter can be witnessed as the same dynamic whereby preserving the early universal stages which allowed the formation of particles as we probe deeper within those structures to reach distant past times of the cycle implicating the universal conditions and energy/wave density levels during those periods pertaining to such particles formation and larger structures outward through time.

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