Philosophysics of a fundamental substance

[Graybeard]

Intelligence is nothing more than making connections to form networks of firing neurons and such within ones mind which represent the world before us in some reproducible pattern as we are taught early on the outcome of our actions through physical experience, wisdom is building upon that experience to make further connections which allow us to predict outcomes we've yet to experience, and genius is the extent to which we can take such connections to the pinnacle of that which doesn't even have a clear connection grounded in the real world, but is somehow being represented by that which we've touched and predicted to form the mountain from which we stand to finally get a glimpse of it.

Well said O' good and faithful Forum member ...... This one should be carved in stone.


greg

[labelwench]

My word/picture mind immediately transposes your definitions to:

Intelligence = Connect the dots.
Wisdom = Lego & Mechano sets
Genius = Combining the two, designing the new.

My personal 'working model' is to observe all other working models and assimilate that which seems relevant to my own frame of reference. I don't consider that I am a lazy thinker, only that the operating system of this biology is presently committed to other applications.

It is a pleasure and a privilege to have access to the many interesting threads available at this forum, and I perceive a growing respect and understanding evolving between posters, though at times they must work hard to comprehend what each has to offer the other.

This is developing into an interesting thread, despite my lack of complete understanding of some of the terms.

[Lloyd Gillespie]

Ummmmmmmm ..... excuse my dumbness here ....... but when Va = Vu this is describing the Fundamental Substance ..... ??

At this point light cones do not apply ..... or have I missed something ??[The FS has to be made of something Greg, and the decay process shows this to be either photons, or some other family Boson__Which is the same as a dark light cone to infinity__maybe__speculation at that lenght of time... But, one has to realize the field is an absolute FS, for any exist to exist at all... Both Dave and I agreed on this years ago. Remember him and I speaking about seeing the entire Universe as a single virtual 'Atom...?' You only have to know matter has to go to its finest structure state, in the recycle__or any absolute model coming from a FS__a hyper-fine-structured FS, and I have always stated, having at least a minimal mass field__to later form/condense into any type of structured quantum matter...]

greg

It gets a bit confusing Greg, unless you realize the Fundamental Substance is still the entire Universe, and everything in it, which we stipulate with different eras, volumes, motions, condensations, constructions, structured matter, you, me or whatever. The Vr and Vu states are the motion mechanics states most involved in building all the structured matter you see, from the smallest quantum particles, to black holes and galaxies, etc.__and in my way of seeing it, the Va is also a part of this whole__always. Years ago, I tried to get Dave to break up the universal field eras into better distinctions of description easings__such as S1 and S2, for Space 1 before the big bang, small bangs, black-holes or whatever, and Space 2 for all state actions after such possible events, but he didn't want to. Now, I'm seeing it might be helpful to also designate an S1 possibly existing beyond our S2 present existing light cone state, and its lowest rad decay state and back... It's just I've tried to stay away from what's beyond the lowest rad decay state, as it's pure speculation, as to whether it's a high velocity space state as David thinks, or a c limited space state__but the rad decay toward infinity would thin the extremal end of the rad's dark-light cone to a most Vu state Meeting a Va state, imo__Its field content would be pure speculation, as my math-ratio-logic doesn't extend that far. It'd be like back in `82 when I built the virtual cyclotron and stepped outside the light cone__But honestly what that extremal state would be is beyond my science... It could just as easily be a c Va-Vu field to eternity in infinity, as PoP's has stated__I gut no idea...

Any speculations in the beyond 10^137 years decay state...?

I don't know if that helps, but if not, feel free to just ask again, what's still not comprehended...

[labelwench]

I don't know if that helps, but if not, feel free to just ask again, what's still not comprehended...
Originally posted by Lloyd Gillespie

For my part, I must first formulate the questions, lol...if I have any hope of understanding the answers which all of you gentlemen are most capable of providing.

Meanwhile, I'll just be a hitchhiker......

[Graybeard]

... and I perceive a growing respect and understanding evolving between posters, though at times they must work hard to comprehend what each has to offer the other.

This is only temporary ...... while we manouvere into our positions .... open warfare may erupt at any time ..... rotflmao


cool bananas ... greg

PS: I promise to be polite and goooood ....

[labelwench]

This is only temporary ...... while we manouvere into our positions .... open warfare may erupt at any time ..... rotflmao


cool bananas ... greg

PS: I promise to be polite and goooood ....

LOL.....

There was never any question but that you were good.

The operational difficulty at times may lay in sorting out the carp from the red herrings? Or to phrase it differently, sorting the 'bait' from the 'catch'?

I await future developments with bated breath......
......not to be confused with 'you take my breath away'.

I think I finally understand the male rules of engagement as.....
.....THERE ARE NO RULES......

Unlike the female code of conduct, you are not mandated to change same, if the existence of such is even suspected, lol....

[austintorn@aol.com]

Well said O' good and faithful Forum member ...... This one should be carved in stone.


greg

[Graybeard]

It gets a bit confusing Greg, unless you realize the Fundamental Substance is still the entire Universe, and everything in it, which we stipulate with different eras, volumes, motions, condensations, constructions, structured matter, you, me or whatever.

Ummmmm ...... I am only mildly disagreeing here ...... as we study what the ultimate makeup of matter is .... in our descent thru reductionism ... we find that lower levels have less attributes. The fundamental Substance must have the least attributes of all.


Only after Dave's collision does Va = (Vu + Vr) prior to that Va = Vu (there is only one degree of freedom.)

The Vr and Vu states are the motion mechanics states most involved in building all the structured matter you see, from the smallest quantum particles, to black holes and galaxies, etc.__and in my way of seeing it, the Va is also a part of this whole__always. Years ago, I tried to get Dave to break up the universal field eras into better distinctions of description easings__such as S1 and S2, for Space 1 before the big bang, small bangs, black-holes or whatever, and Space 2 for all state actions after such possible events, but he didn't want to. Now, I'm seeing it might be helpful to also designate an S1 possibly existing beyond our S2 present existing light cone state, and its lowest rad decay state and back... It's just I've tried to stay away from what's beyond the lowest rad decay state, as it's pure speculation, as to whether it's a high velocity space state as David thinks, or a c limited space state__but the rad decay toward infinity would thin the extremal end of the rad's dark-light cone to a most Vu state Meeting a Va state, imo__Its field content would be pure speculation, as my math-ratio-logic doesn't extend that far. It'd be like back in `82 when I built the virtual cyclotron and stepped outside the light cone__But honestly what that extremal state would be is beyond my science... It could just as easily be a c Va-Vu field to eternity in infinity, as PoP's has stated__I gut no idea...

Any speculations in the beyond 10^137 years decay state...?

I don't know if that helps, but if not, feel free to just ask again, what's still not comprehended...

I feel that (c) is not so relevant when Va = Vu.

I should point out here that while I am using Dave's Theory to clarify with both yourself and Tim ...... I differ from Dave on makeup of the FS ie: when Va = Vu ..... in my opinion Va = Vr and will develop on this further but at the moment its work a bit, post a bit, work a bit ... etc

cool bananas ... (and as this thread is on the right track for the TOE I will really try not to be antagonistic ... but to pull my head in and consider all others opinions ..... )

greg

[Graybeard]

Austin .... your da man ..... but it looks like it weighs about 2 tonne .... how ya gunna ship it to Tim ... lol


greg

[labelwench]

Austin .... your da man ..... but it looks like it weighs about 2 tonne .... how ya gunna ship it to Tim ... lol


greg

As a compressed file hologram that he can display wherever he wants?