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    Re: Philosophysics of a fundamental substance

    Hi Tim and everyone, I was reading Lloyd’s reply above.
    The interaction of a classic structure with that which is outside the structures treating Feynman reveal that wave is everywhere and the structure is within the proximity of wave ends when we consider classic structure that is shielded by wave proximity value such as a molecular structure or further the bio structure.
    Is it possible that wave will not affect structure in the deep recess of our mind for the example immediately goes to the assure dimension in the brain and that bracket of view there will be a mass in which there is other wave and it effect on the motion of energy potential in a medium of transfer.
    The intensity considered varied to higher amplitudes and frequency considered will indicate that outside the bio system there is indeed still vibrating capable wave affecting the inner bio system the potential.
    In the quanta mechanical of a qubit determinate of a structure non linier but still in linier motion as a structure all being relative position of view being taken, the mass would be a measure against mass potential to any constructive or destructive event horizon being reached by proximity position and treating such as polar state forward of the structure with amplitude and frequency into the ratio dimension.
    The only problem we would seem to have in the electron structure toronic is that it will measure observable as a radiant negative value at the same time it mass will dimension as a particle which we know that it does in the split screen experiments.
    Remembering that the electron is no longer a singular structure in a beam further must allow for a treat of the forward state of the beam or singular electron forward affecting other in its path. This I did in Dave’s thread with the extended geometric reality and quadrant determinate. Electro dynamic fluidity rules even as it is not through a medium atomic just a frequency of wave with an amplitude value based on a source causal. The register of the event forward could be taken in the Boise Einstein chamber to be just that wave function forward returning to the event as a register there of a named positron which the forward part of the structure would exhibit in reverse … not at all saying ever that it was a positron just the pseudo positron based on a two or four quadrant reveal in the geometric pictorial we could by vanity dimension without the math and with the math I would predict it would be in the fourth quadrant using a platform of reality to a given standard of what the structure mechanical would be in a linier mode transferring to a cyclic mode in the event horizon of the chamber.
    Just some thoughts
    Kind regards graham

    afterthought ... ok Lloyd, the use of the aproximate as noted in the Pi determinate is settled an arguement by simply expanding the boundary to the dimension of the line representing the boundary and this why the math is going to be found in the geometric reality. It is not Meta at all.
    imoh g/
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    Re: Philosophysics of a fundamental substance

    Hi Graham, I never said the geometry or math was meta-, I've only always stated that many interpretations of the geometry and math were meta-. The geometry is always absolute fs in motion, and simply complex, and many often use meta- too/in the explain. Excellent job of reading through the complex geometry. I'd just mention that this is very close to Ellman's and Mathis' descriptions, of which I am mostly in agreement with__Not all their ideas, but as to the fundamental fs motions of Bose-Einstein mass formations of structure, from the fs-fields primary_structuring, and secondary_destructive/constructive emits__yet even the primary emits itself, through a self-propagation of self-contained motion mechanics__of 2c to c, imo, by spin collisions and linear exits/emits__at the photon to photon levels... Multiple-rate pulses(voltages) would have to be the group composites of individually-discrete fs-motions and collisions, of the fs-fields, and any composites' geo-combinatorics, natural bio-combinatorics and human-combinatorics is capable of producing__The discrete-non-discrete composites of superpositioning? I've mentioned__It is, yet it isn't exactly... In other words, a strong pulse is just a semi-superpositioning of a group discreteness of many individual primary quanta, of small pulses...(charge density or compactness in group c's__c to group c, of c spin states to c linear states__this state transition mechanics is critical to total understanding, as it's the fundamental propagation mechanics of c__quantum group bounce, imo__the pool ball analogy, except there's only a 1/2 c cancelation of the 2c forces at bounce centers out, from absolute linear to angular, to linear propagations, again__in the absolute propagation mechanics__the excess forces are emitted laterally, producing the fundamental em-wave structure mechanics, imo, to account for all the conservation of motion mechanics' laws...)

    The above may have to be reworked to final, as I'm just thinking off the top of my hat...
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    Re: Philosophysics of a fundamental substance

    hilbert spaces, would you consider the interpitation discribe of spaces to be a bit failing the reality or just from another geometric view? such as strands though they do not seem to have any crossing or interactions treated such as merge .. more the carrier wave behind or ahead ..


    such treat of it being the latter then it fails clarity of any sort for advancement or falls to the toronic structure in the second option observed being more clear and simple.


    all questions lol ...


    after though on a bit of a re reading the 2c can be consider of c going to 1/2c in the radient planck measure as a two phase structure. early today lol ..

    kind regards graham
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    Re: Philosophysics of a fundamental substance

    No to strand, as it's far too meta-, and yes to second... Some of Schiller's ideas are fine, but he exaggerates far too far into the meta-strands, though an absolute fundamental photon/electron geometry may not be far different, when considering the excess line length of spin to linear, idk this dimension too well, other than we do measure long wave lengths to be over 100 miles long__what would this look like to/in a linear view, instead of our measuring sensor...? Again, idk...

    after though on a bit of a re reading the 2c can be consider of c going to 1/2c in the radient planck measure as a two phase structure. early today lol ..
    Yes, and I may call it multi-phase, as all waves are entering and leaving the center phase mechanics__at the speed of light__the discrete continuousness__at the very heart of QM' propagations__which really causes our illusions of continuous oneness verses the more true and fundamental discreteness__The p-adicness of the Fundamental Universe...
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    Re: Philosophysics of a fundamental substance

    could the emit be considered a directional wave form of spinier containment with scattering perpidicular to the observation thus removal of all but the point forward? this would seem to be the logic and we can observe it in the big based on what first reaching the event horizon of interaction ... my axiom is based on that assumption that the transfer through any medium or not a medium on the quantum level of discrete wave in series does not have to consider that medium so much as any more then the amount of scatter that would take place in that medium of space as both heat rads and light rads at the packet level considered in the ratio.

    hope this is not to far out there.

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    Re: Philosophysics of a fundamental substance

    could the emit be considered a directional wave form of spinier containment with scattering perpidicular to the observation thus removal of all but the point forward?
    This, I can't quite interpret your meaning. To me, nothing is removed__the emit just continues on to produce the smaller charge quantities up to the larger__all throughout the Universe, all over again. I do not accept any annialation mechanics as valid, if this be what you refer to. Yes, there is a degrade of many forces, I don't know which do degrade, if some, or if all degrade__that's still a mystery to me__even though over enough time, we certainly know they all degrade, but there's gotta be an overall re-cycle there somewhere in the Universal mechanics of time/distance__Also...

    I'm just stabbing in the dark here to answer you, because I can't totally understand your meanings... Here's why; 'The point forward is always meeting another point forward__there ain't no backward, and imo, only neutrons and positrons are known to decay, but I ask to what...?__and both neutrons and positrons can also form into new Bose-Einstein mechanics' structures, such as the rads a Fukushima, right now happening. Rads, that we in the nuke industry have to worry about, when in or near containment or breach of, are the real electrons and protons forced into emit by the introduction of neutrons, from the exciter rods, accidentally falling into the uranium-plutonium pellets upon meltdown, which forces massive radiation exposure__that is extremely lethal, as electrons and especially protons, in close proximity, bore big holes in ones cell structure. Of course the protons are slowed quite quickly by the air density, but the electrons travel much further, whereas the photons are far less harmful, but still hot at close range. If you notice, this means the emits actually do produce real further action, especially the hotter the nuke-pellets become__and in meltdown, the uranium-plutonium can find new sources of ignition in the concrete, as neutrons come from many different types of mineral rock, which the concrete contains. So, as I've stated, the rad mechanics is our best shot of understanding the whole linear to spin, to linear phase states, imo...'__and btw, physics hardly studies this state, as we've had few chances to study live radiation experiments, at the transmutation mechanics levels__since it's far too hot__in fact deadly...

    I just gotta mention this about Fukushima. Just imagine how shocked and out of logical function, the entire world has been over this disaster__6 nuke plants at one site, 4 of which were capable of producing plenty of electricity to run the cooling pumps__EVEN IN COOLDOWN MODE__and nobody in the world thought to tell them to turn the nuke generater circuit on, even in the cooldown mode, to produce the power needed, to run the pumps. At the least, all it would have taken on day 1, was a bit of computer re-wiring, or simple cable re-routing at the plants, as 4 were live and running, at the time of the quake, and could still produce real power long into shutdown mode__This has been shear madness to me, to sit here and watch the insanity develop, without being able to help__but honestly, I only realized this last night, myself, after it's too late to help, as the reactors are now beyond operational capabilities, or salvage...

    This world is nuts__including myself, at times...
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    Re: Philosophysics of a fundamental substance

    the point forward may be that point forward that aligns the other structure ... ok remove the word may.

    consideration is being made the structure itself has the two discrete functions and a third forward when it is in motion in the transient imagine of a packet. The polar state of the forward in the motion would align the sodium atom yet not be the event horizon of smashing declaim. ... hmmm ok that is out there but maybe not. It makes more of a clarity to me. imoh g
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    Re: Philosophysics of a fundamental substance



    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Introduction_to_eigenstates
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eigenvalues_and_eigenvectors
    Shear
    Shear in the plane is a transformation in which all points along a given line remain fixed while other points are shifted parallel to that line by a distance proportional to their perpendicular distance from the line. In the horizontal shear depicted above, a point P of the plane moves parallel to the x-axis to the place P' so that its coordinate y does not change while the x coordinate increments to become x' = x + k y, where k is called the shear factor. The shear angle φ is determined by k = cot φ.

    Applying repeatedly the shear transformation changes the direction of any vector in the plane closer and closer to the direction of the eigenvector.

    Uniform scaling and reflection
    Multiplying every vector with a constant real number k is represented by the diagonal matrix whose entries on the diagonal are all equal to k. Mechanically, this corresponds to stretching a rubber sheet equally in all directions such as a small area of the surface of an inflating balloon. All vectors originating at origin (i.e., the fixed point on the balloon surface) are stretched equally with the same scaling factor k while preserving its original direction. Thus, every non-zero vector is an eigenvector with eigenvalue k. Whether the transformation is stretching (elongation, extension, inflation), or shrinking (compression, deflation) depends on the scaling factor: if k > 1, it is stretching; if 0 < k < 1, it is shrinking. Negative values of k correspond to a reversal of direction, followed by a stretch or a shrink, depending on the absolute value of k.

    History
    Eigenvalues are often introduced in the context of linear algebra or matrix theory. Historically, however, they arose in the study of quadratic forms and differential equations.

    Euler studied the rotational motion of a rigid body and discovered the importance of the principal axes. Lagrange realized that the principal axes are the eigenvectors of the inertia matrix. In the early 19th century, Cauchy saw how their work could be used to classify the quadric surfaces, and generalized it to arbitrary dimensions. Cauchy also coined the term racine caractéristique (characteristic root) for what is now called eigenvalue; his term survives in characteristic equation.

    Fourier used the work of Laplace and Lagrange to solve the heat equation by separation of variables in his famous 1822 book Théorie analytique de la chaleur. Sturm developed Fourier's ideas further and brought them to the attention of Cauchy, who combined them with his own ideas and arrived at the fact that real symmetric matrices have real eigenvalues. This was extended by Hermite in 1855 to what are now called Hermitian matrices. Around the same time, Brioschi proved that the eigenvalues of orthogonal matrices lie on the unit circle, and Clebsch found the corresponding result for skew-symmetric matrices. Finally, Weierstrass clarified an important aspect in the stability theory started by Laplace by realizing that defective matrices can cause instability.

    In the meantime, Liouville studied eigenvalue problems similar to those of Sturm; the discipline that grew out of their work is now called Sturm–Liouville theory. Schwarz studied the first eigenvalue of Laplace's equation on general domains towards the end of the 19th century, while Poincaré studied Poisson's equation a few years later.

    At the start of the 20th century, Hilbert studied the eigenvalues of integral operators by viewing the operators as infinite matrices. He was the first to use the German word eigen to denote eigenvalues and eigenvectors in 1904, though he may have been following a related usage by Helmholtz. For some time, the standard term in English was "proper value", but the more distinctive term "eigenvalue" is standard today.

    The first numerical algorithm for computing eigenvalues and eigenvectors appeared in 1929, when Von Mises(A Brother of the Mathematical Statistical Economist) published the power method. One of the most popular methods today, the QR algorithm, was proposed independently by John G.F. Francis and Vera Kublanovskaya in 1961.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludwig_von_Mises (the brother)

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    Re: Philosophysics of a fundamental substance

    Hi Lloyd,

    I haven't gotten any new ideas lately. Just been considering the implications of overlaying the kinetic theory of gases over the rigid PSF and imagining how Vr heat motion within domains separating structured atoms and molecules is worked out. This also relates to the Brownian motions as with this animation. http://galileo.phys.virginia.edu/cla.../brownian.html

    Its easy to imagine the structured systems being transferred relative to the absolute PSF in some mathematical relationship relative to the equalization of the underlying constituent motion transfer which we might acknowledge as composite thermodynamics. The structured systems would also have motion dynamics of their own establishing composite from constituent which are simultaneously processed and maintained in conjunction with the unstructured field motions. It's all just a dance at such constituent scales, we just need to learn to listen to the music I guess...... all I got right now.

    Disclaimer: *The above statements are my opinion only and shouldn't be taken as factual. Read at your own risk*

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    Re: Philosophysics of a fundamental substance

    ....could be a square box? like in square dance!



    sage made me do it tim sorry...
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