Waves.

[Meem]

Light waves, gravity waves, mass waves, space wave, energy waves ....

Does time? Well sure, space-time waves? Just about everything has an independant example of .... waving (hello!). I was thinking about this the other day, and now I find mindself thinking, if time is an actually "thing/block/axiom/fundamental" part of the universe, should there not be some form of "isolated/independant" time-wave? The more I thought about it, the more I wasn't sure it was even possible. The first thing that came to mind was a blackhole. They make gravity waves/wells and if you could fly tightly around the event horizon ... according to hawkings neat little show, you would experice time slower than those further away.

But anyhow, the more I started thinking about it, the more I wondered how insepperable time and gravity are. Minus all the stuff we don't know for certain yet, gravity/anti-grav are the forces responsible for motion yes? And without motion/gravity-anti ... would there be "time?"

I thought I would google time-wave, and I did. Got some rather entertaining stuff to hit, but haven't found much of "mainstream-science" based stuff just yet. Will have to look some more I guess. The stuff I found, I had to watch and got totally sidetracked doing so. Interesting ... left field .... idea.

What would a large "independant" wave of time do/look like washing over earth? Would one see it? Could? Maybe just experience it?

Anyhow, this is what I found, and watched for a bit. I'm not saying I accept this stuff, idea, at all or not at all. I find it interesting, as well strange, and ... strange.

Beyond the alluminum hat.

The man wearing it.

[Meem]

forgot this one.

Interesting speech. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLc6i...eature=related

[labelwench]

forgot this one.

Interesting speech. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLc6i...eature=related

I don't have the opportunity at present to view the longer presentation but I did find this shorter clip of interest.

Our sense of acceleration may also be coming from the increased pressure to compete for resources as our population continues to grow within a finite habitat.

Technology has increased the speed with which we may accomplish almost all tasks, and yet without increased ability to produce, process and deliver the necessities of life, would we be capable of survival?


Also, as we gain more life experience, when we compare the present to that which has already gone before, the ratio of time past compared to present, and potential time remaining ever changes, and may also contribute to this accelerated experiencing of time.

My thoughts of the moment......

[Bogie]

Thanks Meem, Terence McKenna has done some fascinating work. I remember him from Art Bell shows where he was an occasional guest. I had forgotten about him until I followed your links. Surreal is the term that comes to mind.

Waves all have a time element and for every wave length there is a corresponding frequency measured in time. Different waves have different equations but they all have a common element and that is the origin of the wave or the center point of the spherical wave. The rate of expansion is the time element and allows us to calculate the point of origin of any wave if we know its shape and frequency so time is inseparable from the wave motion. Also, given the time that a wave has been traversing the medium we can determine the energy level of the source from the frequency. To put that into a somewhat surreal context, if our brains emit waves as we think and act, then those waves exist as a record of our thoughts as they traverse space. When they reach a distant point in space, their origin in space and time can be located so remember that what we think and do is out there to be examined across a broader and broader swath of space as time passes, and can be tracked right back to you even after you are long gone . Just some thoughts to go along with your presentation.

[Penz2nz]

Hey Meem,

As those who become familiar with me know, my scientific understanding is relentlessly linked to my understanding of the "original" unaltered texts that make up the books of the modern Bible.

In both realms of understanding, I do not lay claim to perfection in that understanding. I do, however, boldly lay claim to a clear understanding of some topics contained in both.

Those scriptures reveal that time is a function of the motion of the bodies that make up our solar system. Our divisions of years, seasons, months, days, or specific moments in time are all referenced to those motions.

It follows then, that time has no wave properties other than the sound waves generated by the ticking of our clocks.

Thanks for the post. I always enjoy it when someone inspires me to examine my positions more deeply as those scriptures also say: (paraphrased) Be ready always to give an answer for the faith that is in you.

Wayne R

[William Christie]

GUT says that various forces are interactions or exchange of various particles/waves. Perhaps the electric field and gravity are two different manifestations of the same wave. What is a graviton? I think it is just a different manifestation of a wave that is rotating and thus creates a localized electrical field or charge. That then leads me to speculate about the weak force and the strong force.