Theory of Anything

[Drifter]

20 Primary Universal Laws

This topic, broadcast on October 2nd 1987, examines twenty primary Universal laws that when applied, assists us in maintaining the balance in our lives. This is an extract from Dick Sutphen's book Lighting the Light Within.
The Universe is perfectly balanced by natural and moral laws with regulatory vibrations to maintain order, when you work within the laws you can be assured of an eventual positive outcome. When the laws are transgressed you can be assured of suffering; the only purpose of this is to teach you a better way.

http://www.radioastrology.com/TFG/20PrUniL.htm

[Drifter]

Borrowed from Mikal on another thread.
C.G.Jung said; Emotion is the source of all becomming.

Now its very important to know and clarify that this journey is not about self-importance, that is sacraficed or purged in the experience—it is not about a sense of superiority or power over others.

This is clarified by Carl Jung when he stated below:

‘THE PROPER ATTITUDE FOR THE EGO IS REALLY HUMILITY’

‘THE EGO NEEDS TO BE HUMBLED IN ORDER TO ALLOW THE INDIVIDUAL TO DISCOVER THE DEEPER AND MORE SUBTLE WISDOM INHERENT IN LIFE.’


‘THE EGO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR CONSCIOUSNESS, ETHICAL BEHAVIOR AND DEALING WITH THE CONFLICT OF OPPOSITES’

‘WE MUST NOT CONFUSE THE EGO WITH EGOTISM OR INDIVIDUATION WITH EGOTISM. INDIVIDUATION IS SUBMISSION TO ONE’S CALLING AS A PERSON.’

‘OUR HIGHEST POTENTIAL AS HUMAN BEINGS INCLUDES A SPIRITUAL DIMENSION.’

‘Where love rules, there is no will to power, and where power predominates, love is lacking, the one is the shadow of the other.’—Carl Jung
http://www.toequest.com/forum/consci...-new-post.html

[Drifter]

It is a very strange concept indeed that such an entity as the monotheistic God—who, as an enlightened being, one would suppose is beyond ego and the need to be honored—requires our fawning and adulation. Yet, this pandering is precisely what our "authorities" dictate constitutes a "religious" experience. If we were to apply such obsequious behavior to a human "king of kings" or "lord of lords," we in any self-respecting society would consider this activity to rank as scaredy-cat brown-nosing and arse-kissing. But when this same behavior is done in terms of pacifying an invisible and imaginary deity in the sky, then it is considered excellence....

Any entity that would punish another being because he or she failed to praise that entity is not a god at all but is a sadistic tyrant who easily could be compared to the most evil of despots, Satan. This supposedly good God likes to pass his days squeezing humanity for praise—or else he'll toss us into eternal hell. This fascist egoist we call "God" is a bully, coward and insecure sadist who demands constant approval. Then we are told to put our responsibility on this fictitious monster, who flattens cities, murders millions and tortures women.

http://stellarhousepublishing.com/gospel.html
see Table of Contents

[Drifter]

We saw this same thing in the year 2000 and also in 2001. I won't buy into such things. I distrust and doubt those who perpetuate such stories. The world is precisely what WE ALL have made it. We can try not to claim it, but it is ours. I am not worried about 2012, anymore than I was worried about 2000. Whatever the case I refuse to blame it on the politicians.

WE ALL have made our bed...and now we must sleep in it. The people of the western world are insatiable. They are electing people who will tell them what they want to hear...and for the most part the politicians are trying to give the people what the people ask for. But the policies and goods we are asking the politicians to give us are not sustainable. We want too much!! We think we deserve it!! We need to learn to ask for less. To give more than we take. But by and large, the people would rather take more than they give. Our western societies need a serious appetite suppresant!!

But if the cosmos are turning toward the end time, if the end comes and is inevitable, why should we fear it. We should only worry over those things we can change. We can change the world in our own locality. That's where our energy should be spent. If we will stop turning to government to save us from crime, loss, disease, misfortune, death, and taxes, and begin governing ourselves according to sustainable principles, perhaps then, we will be ready when the cosmos have turned.

Which brings me back to Newton...

An epidemic had hit the UK, and Newton, to avoid contact with the contagion, secluded himself on a family farm far from the infected masses. While in seclusion, Newton began to think deeply about light and about motion. During that period, Newton established a particle (or corpuscular) theory of light. In this theory, Newton came to realize that white light can be separated into its component spectra by passing through a prism. Newton also developed a theory of motion based upon the past work of Descarte and Galileo, which described motion in terms of absolute space and absolute time. This theory has become an underlying bedrock to all discoveries that have occurred since (even the contradictory theory of Einstein).

Newton's theory of motion was a Theory of Everything in its time. It unified the ideas of gravity, of motion and of rest. In essence Newton's theory of motion wrapped up in one great whole all that we can know about how things move.

Now in keeping with the purpose of this thread, I will ask--Did Newton's theory of motion change the simple lives of the people in jolly old England or anywhere else? Did his subsequent creation of the field of math we call the Calculus (designed to help him better understand motion and the forces associated with motion) change the lives of people for the better?

In a nutshell, Of Course.

It's all part and parcell of Progressive Revelation, from the mind of genius's aka Messenger from G-d (Original Absolute Life-Force).
Un adulterated.

Intuition, The voice of the Soul / the 'lost' sense the Greek's knew and honored as their "Genie". As it should be. So it is.

[Wick]

It is a very strange concept

indeed that such an entity as the monotheistic God—who, as an enlightened being,
one would suppose is beyond ego and the need to be honored—requires our fawning
and adulation.

The God of my heart is the very expression of humility--one who submits to all law in perfect obedience and thereby becomes a perfect expression of law (the word made flesh). As a disciple of that God, I seek to do the same...but I'm not very good at it. Luckily this humble God is also patient with his less-than-perfect disciples. Though I cannot attain perfection in the law, I will strive toward becoming a less than perfect expression of law.

The reason I seek the TOE is because law is law. No artificial barrier lies between physical law and moral law. They are the same.

Similarly, religion will never in and of itself become a TOE...the spiritual and the physical must become perfectly blended. Religion and science...the lamb and the lion (you choose which is which)...must lie down together. For this reason we should not place religion and science at odds. They both hold part of the truth. Separately they are both false.

Now having come around to physical law, may I once again ask about Newton. You keep trying to lead us down a new age road, Drifter, but I won't be so easily side tracked. Was Newton's attempt at a TOE (the laws of gravity and motion) of any benefit (physical or spiritual) to the common man?

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99.9% of life is about existence, not its essence (the TOE). That is why the existentialists say that existence much precedes essence in importance. Sure, the calculus of Newton and the further maths that were found made for computers and other devices, some of which greatly help our lives, but they are not the core of existence nor are they the TOE itself. They are complicated composites, like us, far above and beyond the source of little particles.

We are thrust into existence, with but no real choice but to live it, and that consumes most of our time. There is, always, though, at times, the urge to know how we came to be, much of which is explained by evolution, but not ultimately so, for it seems that that capability had to be inherent all along, or it is, perhaps, that everything has a chance to happen. If it had not been here, then maybe, even surely, somewhere else. We higher mammals seem to have once been down to but a few thousand hardy souls, according to Marine Isotope Stage 6, but flourished thereafter.

The closest we get to the All (TOE) is that the All is required to be unlimited—or it simply wouldn’t be the All, thus it must be eternal, for one thing, and everywhere (infinite), for another. I’d then say that everything possible then has to happen, even time and time again, even many times at once.

We are perplexed by such forever systems having no source, as if the All was causeless, but are then reassured when realizing that beginnings would be anathema to any theory of Totality, as again, the Total would not then have been Total.

So, then, we quickly go back to our existence, for that’s where life is. We don’t just simply exist, but give ourselves, as many have said, as best we can.

Now and then the thoughts of TOE return, as it is in our nature to be curious, and hopefully understand more from that, bettering our lives, more from what’s about than the actual TOE stuff. Causeless? Hmmm. Beginnings are already ruled out. The buck of cause and effect stops somewhere, replaced by something else, yet cause and effect continues on afterward and upward. Can’t have an infinite regress of smaller and smaller somethings. Yet, not thing could be truly fundamental because it has a certain definition, one apart from any other possible definition. Maybe there is only one possible definition. If electrons, quarks, and photons are ‘elementary’, then perhaps their masses, charges, sizes, and all their other properties can only be what they are. And why do charged particles always appear in pairs as opposites in charge and matter state, seemingly canceling out? And why does the negative potential energy of gravity seem to match the positive kinetic energy of stuff?

We have now reached the end of what we know, so now only philosophy remains; yet, we were almost there, on the verge, even. So close, yet so far—we cannot know why there just wasn’t a totally lack of anything at all— a big zero. Sure, we know that that would be impossible, but not exactly why, because, although ‘nothing’ has no properties and cannot be, or it still would be, we don’t know why there had to be something; so, we abandon that dilemma, but still get information out of it, which is that there had to be something; no choice, no option.

Does this help us in our existence? No, not in any major, day-to-day way. But we came from tiny particles that had to be. So what! Existence is here, way beyond that, and it fills our days, although the particles and forces run us.

Maybe it affects our developed myths, and that has some small effect on how we live, but we may just take those with a grain of salt, or it is that they, too, again place us here, in this thrust existence ever remaining to be pretty much fully attended to, for this is where the action is.

Our minds are often simple. We might even take as the cause of anxiety that we already have to falsely be a dog, cat or a kid that thereby annoys us; but, then, in a smarter moment, realize that none of that bothered us the day before when we felt perfectly normal. Emotions can even take the forefront when we make decisions, such as buy a house with the style of cathedral ceiling at the expense of square footage, but logic and emotion had a discourse about it. For TOE, though, emotions might get in the way. We might be attached to the age-old family structure and then posit a father-type Being as our source, use being taken care of in that way, but then, again, in a more logical moment, realize that this template fails instantly, if it were truly carried beyond, and, to boot, we’ve identified a complexity as fundamental, a sure contradiction in terms. It was a simple thought, and even one that brought comfort, but it doesn’t even make for philosophy. It was just a desire, not much more than a wish, and can’t show anything.

Yes, essence truly remains unknowable, at the end of the day. Maybe we were made by some Really Smart Guy, an alien, or not. It’s not knowable. Can’t know.

Are we done, then? No, for we’ve just missed what that really means. Essence is unknowable, true, but real information becomes of this. How? We can’t know; so, we are free to be. It is a liberation. We are free to make meaning out of life, which depends on who we are, what we’ve become, and what we can become, within our form. No real limits.

PS
What more can we derive about the near-TOE, beyond that the ALL must be infinite and eternal? (Maybe next time.)

Anyway, hoping for some discussion.

[BETTY3]

Yes, it's the most interesting topic I've come across. Sorry, will contribute later, am just getting over being ill for an extended amount of time and am in remission. So it's one day at a time. I have many theories. I plan to start a new thread re: life and death, the how of it. Please add me as a friend.

[BETTY3]

That was something different. Thanks for sharing it.

[BETTY3]

Sorry, I still need more info to make a judgement call on this issue. Like you say, they said 2,000 then 2012 etc. Have more to say about this but it's time to call it a night. Feel free to add me as a friend.

[BETTY3]

excellent explanation