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Re: "Is anti-light achievable?" - 01-10-2007, 08:35 AM

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On the other hand... Anti-light was more of a HOAX than a real possibility.


Would you agree with me if I suggested that light as photons could be interpreted as a movement of "mono-poles" without electromagnetic attractive properties?
I'm serious this time!

Think about this analogy and I'll come back later to continue this friendly debate....
I wont agree with you on the Anti-Light concept. Mainly because I am in favor of an idea where the electric field and magnetic field are entirely separate phenomena. Each field can only induce the presence of the other field in the presence of matter. We are taught in school that the magnetic wave section of an EM wave lags behind the electric wave by ninety degrees. But what happens if we construct waves with different phase relationships? I'm interested in an EM wave where the magnetic wave leads the electric wave by ninety degrees. Since that might be your Anti-Light. The wave could be artificially contructed using independant magnetic and electric wave inducing phenomena. Also the in phase relationship is an area of primary research for me.

Please elaborate on your monopole movement concept.
  
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Smile Re: "Is anti-light achievable?" - 01-10-2007, 11:43 AM

Your logic is impressive... especially in this forum... anyway.

I'd never conceived a violation of the LAG you've referred to in your comments...God forbids me if one day I had such thought.

You were [well] taugth in school about the LAG or phase of 90 degrees delay or I would better say conversion from one type to another... I was talking about something very different here: what you may recognize and also remember as "The right hand law" for the determination of the magnetic field configuration with respect to the direction of the electrical flow of electrons.

In any possible "ANTI-UNIVERSE" this law must have to be entirely REVERSED... It's perfect image. Which led us with the same 90 degree phase-lag between them but SPINNING in THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION...Got it?

Anti-light is perfectly possible and in fact it bares the same privilidges of "our light." The difference is that our universe is bound by a law that rules the entire space [as we know it]. Anti-light is the regular and natural light [energy scattered from atomic orbits after being previously absorbed by it] in ITS OWN UNIVERSE.

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Thumbs up Re: "Is anti-light achievable?" - 01-10-2007, 12:42 PM

I'll get back to the "monopole" analogy, Einstein friend, but there are some other concepts that I need to clarify first, so you and the rest of those who are interesting in where this will lead us, will get a better picture of what my ideas are.

To make sense and understand my point I'll need you to concentrate in the REAL differences between what's caaled "free electrons" and "[imprisonned?] or regular electrons."

We [humans] believed Dr. J.J. Thompson and followed his conclusions about the electromagnetic properties of "his sub-atomic particle: the electron."

I'd like you to understand the difference between what happens inside the atom and what happens outside it. The flow of electric charges is [no argue about] a "movement" of E-M energy from point A to point B... Right? ok!

I have said [many times in my postings] that there is NO CHARGE anywhere near the nucleus of the atom. NO CHARGES WHAT-SO-EVER...period.

Now! If you understood well what Maxwell discovered back then concerning the inherent relationship between electrical charges and magnetic fields [just the way they tougth you in school] I'm lying here big time... Am I not?
So! Let's assumed for a moment that I'm not lying to you and allow me to explain a coupple of things first:

It is absolutely TRUE that relationship between "FREE ELECTRONS" or those MOVING THROUGHT electrical conductors or semiconductors. I won't deny Faraday's work... not even for a milisecond! BUT all this is nothing but TRASFER of energy [a quantized amount of it in the form of "free to move- outside of the atom-electrons" (!) NOT "SUB-ATOMIC PARTICLES" simply... a quantum of E-M energy with "special physical properties" I get back much later on.

Let's concentrate on what happens inside the atom.... first.

I have said [according to the model of the atom I depicted in this forum before] that what "WE" have taken for independent quasi-particles spinning at their will around opposite charged ones [protons] was nothing but a HOAX. It is a complex structure of "STANDING NUCLEAR WAVES" originated by the "WAVE-INTERFERENCE" of high energetic points of energy [with equal strength to the days of the "Big Bang."] What I have called "THE PERFECT SOLUTION."

The reason for such marvelous and complex structure is pretty simple and logic to comprehend: The ultimate conservation of ENERGY in the universe as a whole.
Since there is no "TRASFER" of any type of energy in this "close-interference" it is logical to assume that there is a basic difference between the phenomenon we called "ELECTRO-MAGNETISM" and what is actually happening inside the atom.

Think about it: Two speks of ENERGY emitting spherical waves that met equally speks in the beginings trying to SURVIVE by a mutual interaction. It's obvious that the SPIN produced as the consequence of wave's interference will produce a permanent MAGNETIC FIELD in a sort of "loop." But since there is no "leaking" of energy outside the "closed-system" [interference] there is no place for "energy-transfer" either. No transfer or flow of energy from any point to any point... means no electric charges and no electric field what-so-ever.

Electric charges are the only product of ENERGY prevously being absorbed by MATTER [atoms] "transformed" in "electrons outside the atom [matter]" and allowed to "move" or propagate [as you which to call it...] across either the eather or a simple wire.

There is no electric charges or the least bit of it inside a magnet. It is "PRODUCED" when we move the magnet CLOSE TO MATTER. The atom is not made of the "electro-magnetic" integration of "charged particles or quasi-particles" but a holistic structure that came out of a deeper energy interference pattern, built up in harmonics.

I'll continue with this in another moment.

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Re: "Is anti-light achievable?" - 01-11-2007, 01:07 AM

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Are you suggesting that if matter was not in motion, there would be no mass?
No, not at all, you would still have the quantum spin mass of rest matter. Either linear or spin motion must always absolutely exist, as a function of all definitions of matter/motions.

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Lightbulb Re: "Is anti-light achievable?" - 01-11-2007, 10:28 AM

That is exactly right!

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Re: "Is anti-light achievable?" - 03-27-2008, 01:16 AM

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Very true what you say about matter and anti-matter, they come from energy. Dark energy isn't there. But again, dark energy isn't really anti-energy in the same way as anti-matter is to matter. About the experiment you propose, I think it would work, but how would you detect or proof that there are actually two opposite types of photons coming out?
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