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05-02-2005, 08:10 PM

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"closed link loops"
these loops are topological links similar to the Hopf ring, see the site at

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05-03-2005, 04:11 AM

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these loops are topological links similar to the Hopf ring, see the site at

http://mathworld.wolfram.com/HopfLink.html
thanks. now, are all space particles this kind off loops?

then, if we have the idea that space and time are mayde of the same things, shouldn't time be mayde of "loops"?

or, should there be two kinds of time one for each type of space: continuos time and quantized time?

it would be amazing.
  
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05-03-2005, 01:00 PM

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then, if we have the idea that space and time are mayde of the same things, shouldn't time be mayde of "loops"?

or, should there be two kinds of time one for each type of space: continuos time and quantized time?
the local infinitesimal motion (LIM) of one loop is time. There are two distinct LIMs due to topological nonequivalence. Therefore at infinitesimal region of spacetime, there are two directions of time. These are describable only for quantized space. For global continuous space, time appears only unidirectional as in the thermodynamic arrow of time for entropy and the principle behind the retarded potential of electromagnetism.
  
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05-04-2005, 02:50 PM

Antonio,

does this mean that if I convert into quantized space (theoretically, of course) I would be able to go backwards in time?

because to me, each dimension has two directions, giving the D=2d formula, where big D is dimensions and small d is directions.
  
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05-04-2005, 03:41 PM

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I am taking the day off to do other things. I'll reply as soon as i can.

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05-06-2005, 02:26 PM

hey,

I had never thought in such a logical-mathematical way about time! really good post, quanta07.

Giving formula's for time, is what we should be doing, to be able of explening with them, everything about time, including time travell. Not like scietists which try to prove/disprove time travell and other time subjects with relativity formulas or mathematics about other things.

Know, we can derive from your formula, that then, the "time-space" that an object occupies, is the sum of all the time points it has occupied during his/hers/its existence. showin that
t=in(e^t)
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05-08-2005, 02:41 PM

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does this mean that if I convert into quantized space (theoretically, of course) I would be able to go backwards in time?
In TQS, we are all made up of combinations of H+'s and H-'s. Therefore we do have both time's directions within ourselves but the principle of directional invariance also asserted that we also have all the eigth properties and these properties in 3D of energy and 4D of matter forbid us from experiencing the other time's direction.
  
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In TQS, we are all made up of combinations of H+'s and H-'s. Therefore we do have both time's directions within ourselves but the principle of directional invariance also asserted that we also have all the eigth properties and these properties in 3D of energy and 4D of matter forbid us from experiencing the other time's direction.
in what way to these properties conect to dimensions?

As energy and matter have different dimensions number, then how can they have the same eight properties?
  
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05-09-2005, 02:36 PM

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in what way to these properties conect to dimensions?
the eight properties are URF, ULF, URB, ULB, DRF, DLF, DRB, DLB

U-up
D-down
R-right
L-left
F-front
B-back

3D needs all 8 properties, 4D needs more than 8 into the next higher LOE. 2D and 1D need less than 8.
  
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05-09-2005, 02:48 PM

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the eight properties are URF, ULF, URB, ULB, DRF, DLF, DRB, DLB

U-up
D-down
R-right
L-left
F-front
B-back

3D needs all 8 properties, 4D needs more than 8 into the next higher LOE. 2D and 1D need less than 8.
ok,

now, what do these properties, level of existence, number of dimensions, have to do with local infinitesimal motion? I think I'm rising to the end of understanding. I know it may get you impatient and about to explode, but I'm really thankfull for it.
  
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