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    actualy it has an immediate relation with your speed in relation with the speed ligth and the speed of ather observever and the acceleration of your system of talking

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    Quote Originally Posted by rezaahmed
    So, you all agree that time has a vectoral characteristics and close relation with the speed of light?
    No,I do not see it that way at all.Timetravel in dence physical matter cannot happen, however, in a much less dence medium such as ones etheric body,then in transit such as astral travelling, one can indeed move in time!

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    Cool time is not linear!

    I agree Michael, that time travel is easier in a lighter medium, however, I disagree that denser medium time travel cannot happen. I agree that so-called time travel is related to light, but not that it is directional in the sense of vectoral characteristics. In my view, this is just a function of perspective/awareness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skaper
    when i said traveling into a black hole, i was talking theoritically. BTW guille why is that? you see treveling back in time like a tape filming reverse but i see it like me going reverse in time with out realising it of course is just that others should still grow older faster than me just that time will in a more faster way than traveling at the speed of light.
    The question isn't why not, but why yes. Occam's razor tells us we must explain the universe in the most simpel possible way, and you have added some complication to the universe, whiles I have a simpler form. Just as moving forward in time (which we are doing now, and which we do when we rise our speed until the speed of light) we don't get older, but we see the universe get older, the same with backwards movement in time, you don't get younger, but you see the universe get younger. Why would it be different? Give YOU a scientific explanation of why travelling backwards in time has to be different and not equal to travelling forwards in time.

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    Give YOU a scientific explanation of why travelling backwards in time has to be different and not equal to travelling forwards in time.
    i agree for sure with that opinion. however i have no idea of how is posible to travel forward in time where there are many ways mentioned how to travel backwards. do you have any opinion or do you read theoridical ways of traveling forwards?

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    We in the now are always viewing into the past. How far into the past is determined by the distance we are from that of which we are viewing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dleviwing
    We in the now are always viewing into the past. How far into the past is determined by the distance we are from that of which we are viewing.
    That is very profound,dave,and has a certain logic to it,
    even if it is not correct it feels as though it should be,and I thank you for
    that insight.


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    Hi Michael;
    Simply put, my statement means that it require light time to reach your eye and then it takes more time for your brain to realize it. Thus you can only view the past and not the now.
    When you become omnipresent, you can overcome this infliction of physical reality and see everything in the now.
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    To decipher further your comment Dave, I would suggest that the actual difference in time is insignificant and inconsequential. That is one of the disappointments of relativity. Even though these phenomena are very real, they are only barely measurable, and in actual fact temporally inconsequential to the ongoing process of being. The suggestion that we could invent a time tunnel that takes us to past historical events or far into the future is pure sci-fi. Too bad.

    The nature of space-time is such that temporal inconsistency is the rule throughout the cosmos. But it is no big deal. Even travelling through vast swaths of it will require barely noticeable corrections and accommodations to relative fixed points along the journey. Jet lag is more noticeable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skaper
    i agree for sure with that opinion. however i have no idea of how is posible to travel forward in time where there are many ways mentioned how to travel backwards. do you have any opinion or do you read theoridical ways of traveling forwards?
    The reason why there are so many hypothesis made about backwards time travell is because it fascinates us more, and even though that is to be decided by psicologists, I believe we are fascinated by the past because we have lived it or we are documented on it, but as humans, we are afraid of the unknown, and the future is the unknown. Most of the theories about backwards time travell are in fact science-fiction, and the few which are scientific, are not realistic for the advance of humanity now, but for a few centuries time. Whereas forward time travell not only has been hypothesized, but proven. In fact, we are proving it now, me by posting this post at this moment, and you by reading it at the moment you read it. Yesterday you were in yesterday, today you are in today, and tomorrow you will be in tomorrow. This proves that you have had time travell and that you will have it. The thing is that we are always travelling at the same speed, or nearly the same speed. But ofr example, when austronauts come from a space mission, their watches are retarded by seconds, because they went at very high speeds, and thus their time was slower tha ours (but they never experienced the difference, for the one that is at fast speed, he is moving normally).


 

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