Time Does Not Exist

[austintorn@aol.com]

[dipayankar]

Right because time started at the Big Bang when motion started.

It's not that time flows. It is that the "continuum of substance", evolves by motion.

Disorder is a function of evolution, that leads to complex creations.

Humans witness and experience, the creation of evolving complex creations, thanks to the "continuum of substance".

[melanie]

We can vary our experience of time by changing our vibrations, just as we alter our perception of the rest of the physical universe.

Our concepts, feelings, and limited relations have beginnings and endings in time, but we do not.

On the space level, when we are completely expanded, the time is always now.

When you look at a lake, there is no water in your mind.

Put another way, the awareness of a hard object has no hardness in it.

The awareness of confusion is not confused.

The awareness of insanity is not insane.

The awareness of the passage of time takes no time, there is no time in it.

We "measure" time by the compulsive repetition of interactions on the mass level.

And the more expanded our consciousness, the less compulsion we are involved in.

Our subjective awareness of time is often at variance with the clock.



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[MikeInfinity]

The Past is one second from now.

[austintorn@aol.com]

Here's a happy glimpse of the future;
Best wishes to all on the 4th of July

The Asteroid That May Destroy Humanity

The air beneath it couldn’t get out of the way of the rock,
Rising in temperature ten times more than the sun is hot.
Everything and everyone crinkled and crackled in the heat,
Then a thousand cubic kilometers of earth blew from beneath.

This shock wave, radiating at about the speed of light,
Would sweep just about everything else out of sight.
From further away, one would see a blinding light
And then the unimaginable grandeur of an apocalyptic sight:
A rolling wall of silent darkness as black as midnight.

It would reach to the heavens, filling the entire field of view,
Traveling far beyond the speed of sound toward me an you.
A bewildering veil of turmoil would [ful]fill our vision
During those few last minutes before we met oblivion.

[Paestimer]

And the more expanded our consciousness, the less compulsion we are involved in.
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I have singled out the to me most meaningful and potentially beneficial (in a way that is in an important way the opposite of what "expanded consciousness" conventionally implies) point made by melanie.

Here I mean the word consciousness in a self-regulatory neuropsychophysiological sense of a process that - depending on where, or how fully, and at/across what levels (of brain functioning) the "focus of conscious attention" is being "paid" - may entail the possibility of a highly specific 'neurochemical dispelling' (plausibly involving endogenous cannabinoids) of states of "Specific/synaptic Hibernation".

Such states are by my (what I call 'EPT' ;>) definition environmentally caused to become "conditioned-in" by a correspondingly classifiable and uniquely 'concEPTualized' assortment of adverse lifetime challenges.

Am referring to a subset of predicaments (or adverse stressors) that in order to be survived (individually and eventually survived in a reproductive sense) require (or in a very metaphorical manner of speech "demand" or synonymously but inversely, "implore") Specific/synaptic Hibernation.

I call such Conditioned-in Unconsciously Reverberating Stressors (specifically Specific/synpatic Hibernation Imploring type stressors) - i.e. no longer necessarily environmentally/circumstantially present but still dynamically stored stressful threats that are inevitably Effecting some Symptoms or the other - "CURSES".

The consequence of CURSES *not* getting dispelled [being the by far most common state of neuropsychophysiological and social and political "anthropobiological affairs"] are more or less 'ambi-advantageously' rerouted (and more or less "compulsive") neurotic or (for an entirely not inEPT concEPTual substitute for "neurotic") "AEVASIVE" (symptomatic) preoccupations/behaviors.

AEVASIVE is derived (with elastic pragmatic tailoring of the etymologically pioneering terminology that it is the most integrative concEPTual constituent of) from "Ambiadvantageously Evolved Veritable Actention {selection serving} System Incorporating Various Endoopiates. (Endoopiates, or endorphins, are of course only one amongst many important and significant ingredients; however, the know main role of opioids are very well and widely known and instructive and the E (that Endoopiates supplies) was of course perfectly suited to my acronym-building aspirations.

AEVASIVE has a meaning that is more encompassing yet has an at least as thorough definition (it is guaranteed to have a more in-dEPTh definition) than "neurotic" and does definitely leave less room for a baggage of unbalancing negative associations.

[Mikal]

Neurochemical dispelling......

I believe Jung made a remarkable discovery when he stated that there is a difference between Awareness which should be sacraficed to the development of a concentrated, directed consciousness suited for the demands and tensions of modern, contemporary times. I believe he was pointing out that awareness is awareness but concentrated, directed consciousness is consciousness with higher perception, therefore holding the possibility for higher understanding....

Hibernation....

Deep internal process of reflection on self and life....the dispelling of the conditioned in....


Mikal

[tess]

Before, I even start I would like to state that my math stopped on +/ and minus.
My physics stopped on gravity/ I hope because my many years ago teachers were rubbish/ therefore my thinking depends on many axioms. The only solution in the modern world with so many specializations, points of view and theoretically proven theories.


HOWEVER, / our perception of reality and ultimate truth J° is very limited. In the moment I hear that big bang is only an assumption. It takes in to the account the laws which we know. What about all those theories about the energy which in the moment we can name ‘electricity' but in the end of the day we can’t even name them?

[tess]

We can vary our experience of time by changing our vibrations, just as we alter our perception of the rest of the physical universe.

Our concepts, feelings, and limited relations have beginnings and endings in time, but we do not.

On the space level, when we are completely expanded, the time is always now.

When you look at a lake, there is no water in your mind.

Put another way, the awareness of a hard object has no hardness in it.

The awareness of confusion is not confused.

The awareness of insanity is not insane.

The awareness of the passage of time takes no time, there is no time in it.

We "measure" time by the compulsive repetition of interactions on the mass level.

And the more expanded our consciousness, the less compulsion we are involved in.

Our subjective awareness of time is often at variance with the clock.



Source: http://freespace.virgin.net/sarah.pe.../lazyman7.html

What u wrote or rather quoted is beautiful. I hope that this is the ultimate reality.

[tess]

Neurochemical dispelling......

I believe Jung made a remarkable discovery when he stated that there is a difference between Awareness which should be sacraficed to the development of a concentrated, directed consciousness suited for the demands and tensions of modern, contemporary times. I believe he was pointing out that awareness is awareness but concentrated, directed consciousness is consciousness with higher perception, therefore holding the possibility for higher understanding....

Hibernation....

Deep internal process of reflection on self and life....the dispelling of the conditioned in....


Mikal

Be carful with the whole school of psychoanalysis. Its explains our consciousness or what we assume our subconciousness. In the end of the day it just shows us the world we are capable as humans to perceive or make theories about.
Our perception of ultimate reality is almost nil. So every thing based on it is just a fairy tell