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    Re: Time Does Not Exist

    Quote Originally Posted by melanie View Post
    All that exist is imagination.
    Material world is the residue or thought.

    The mind/imagination is the artist.
    The material world is the picture.
    These are seemingly separate - yet totally inseparable.
    The artist is not in the picture- the picture is in the artist.

    TOE is THIS conception.

    Concepts are just mind constructs in language that can be used to convey information.
    Ideas, creations, words and beliefs are all concepts.
    Perhaps it comes from the same base word that conceive does.
    Anything that can be conceived by the mind is a concept.

    CONCEPT_I_ON .....translated as- all is conceptual.

    There are elemental concepts.
    There are the universal abstract truths - like love, trust, harmony, peace, joy, compassion, etc - yet hard to define
    and don't exist materially
    they are a natural law that has particular causes and effects.

    The world is a conceptual idea, a creation of the mind/ imagination- ideas are concepts, which allow us to create in this world of ours, bringing it to life.

    Something from Nothing-? Nothing from Something-?

    The Eternal Return....as seen in this image.




    ' I am the consummate artist I draw upon my Imagination ~ Albert Einstein


    This "makes me think" (because I am not quite sure how to imagine it ?) of atlantis reborn.
    "I act like you act, I do what you do, but I don’t know, what it’s like to be you. What consciousness is, I ain’t got a clue. I got the Zombie Blues!"

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    Re: Time Does Not Exist

    If time is a particle then gravity, force etc. all have to be particles which needs further investigation. In my mind they are wave (pure energy) and they change their physucal properties at different set of physical parameters.

    Quote Originally Posted by labelwench View Post
    My simple little mind is presently toying with TP's concept of time as particles, which comprise the whole of fundamental substance and have the properties of being able to coalesce and take form, interact as points, strings, waves or fields and reformat endlessly, as they are energy, and energy can not be destroyed, only transformed.

    Science has examined most living things and inert objects and observed the similarities to be far greater than their differences. Whether an entity is ambulant energy (creature) or potential energy (rock), the most basic unit of composition is their common denominator. A simple concept that unravels into a complexity beyond the scope of imagination of any one human brain.

    Perhaps each entity is but similar to a single brain cell in the great vastness that is fundamental substance. We are each but a "Pocket media" that gets reformatted (our consciousness) and recycled (the messy bits of biology) when our time card gets punched.

    (With apologies toTime Particle if I have horribly bent your concept beyond all recognition. This is only my own narrow and winding frame of reference,lol.)

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    Labelwench

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    Re: Time Does Not Exist

    If light can be affected by gravity, such as not being able to escape a black hole, does this make it be classified as matter, and thus more of a particle?

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    Re: Time Does Not Exist

    How does light not escape it? What are the jets? Does light just ... punch through ... somewhere else and keep going and going?

    I thought of an article I read not too long ago. It had something to do with "cold-dust" that was never before seen, that appeared to be coming back together and heating up. Kind of makes me think this is possibly an evaporated "black-hole," and would fit pretty nice into some sort of "steady-state" universe model. Cosmic recycling, if you would.
    Last edited by Meem; 07-30-2009 at 12:32 AM. Reason: More stuff
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    Re: Time Does Not Exist

    If I could best explain how I feel about time, the closest way that I think I understand it ... is like a graphic novel.

    Watchmen, Dr. Manhattan explains it better than I do.
    The quote I like, "Who watches the watchmen?" The Watchman?
    "I act like you act, I do what you do, but I don’t know, what it’s like to be you. What consciousness is, I ain’t got a clue. I got the Zombie Blues!"

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    Re: Time Does Not Exist



    Note the jets

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    Re: Time Does Not Exist

    To be affected by gravity mass is required. Will time particles get affected by gravity???

    Quote Originally Posted by austintorn@aol.com View Post
    If light can be affected by gravity, such as not being able to escape a black hole, does this make it be classified as matter, and thus more of a particle?

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    Re: Time Does Not Exist

    In any event, I really don't like them all that much. "dark-stars" non-believers ... if you would. "Destroy the matter at hand, consume the light." I've never gone through a black hole, and I don't really plan on trying to ... ever. Hopefully one doesn't have it's jets pointed at me either. I kind of think of them as a "true-death." The cosmic consumers that just don't know when to stop, look, and listen. I think Einstein had a reason for not liking them, and his greatest blunder might have been ... helping "us" find them.

    I try to look at people and decide if they are black-holes or white-holes, everyone has a "pie-hole" and it's linked to their brain. The "cosmic-dark-horse" is there a rider, and is his name death? Little creepy.

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    Three Rings for the Elven-kings under the sky,
    Seven for the Dwarf-lords in their halls of stone,
    Nine for Mortal Men doomed to die,
    One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
    In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.
    One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them,
    One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them
    In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

    He paused, and then said in a deep voice,
    "This is the Master-Ring, the One Ring to rule them all.
    This is the One Ring lost many years ago,
    to the great weakening of its maker's power.
    Now, he greatly desires to have it again,
    - but he must NOT get it"
    I saw a Reiki Master today. Good experience. She said my energy was all over the room =D
    Last edited by Meem; 07-30-2009 at 02:08 AM. Reason: Nanoo nanoo
    "I act like you act, I do what you do, but I don’t know, what it’s like to be you. What consciousness is, I ain’t got a clue. I got the Zombie Blues!"

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    Re: Time Does Not Exist

    Quote Originally Posted by austintorn@aol.com View Post
    The brain processes information that precedes our awareness of it.
    It's not 'our' individual awareness---Awareness is an un-divided singular whole.
    It is the substrate behind all phenomena, the ground of (Beingness)

    The brain processes information that precedes our being Conscious of it.

    Awareness is beyond this idea as the singular unchanging screen on which the constantly changing information appears.

    The invisible veil is lifted through an assumed apparent 'individual self' --realizing-- the un-divided 'whole self'
    (Self Awareness)

    As this happens-The 'individual self' disappears back into the ocean of ''Pure Eternal Awareness''

    Our Real Home.
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    See my avatar as a metaphor/symbol/sign....pointing to the above explanation.

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    Re: Time Does Not Exist

    We could say that awareness is the first knowledge (Omniscient) (Primary)(Latent)

    Consciousness is on contact via sensory perception (Conscious Seeing Re-membering) the last to know (Secondary)(Reflection)

    THIS ---'you' appearing AS consciousness -- ARE wholly the first and last knowledge (Conception)

    There is no Separation.

 

 

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