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Re: Time Does Not Exist - 02-05-2007, 07:05 PM

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Without motion including that induced by temperature there is no time. Since space has vacuum energy with random motion (quantum flucs), there cannot be space without time
The equivalence principle of time and distance___they are equivalent, are they not...?

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Re: Time Does Not Exist - 02-06-2007, 04:49 AM

Time is embeeded in the concept of the universe. Even stars are born and die after some certain interval. They do not glow forever. This interval is the basic inherent concept of time. We humans have a much shorter interval called the second. But the concept of time is everywhere.


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I would agree.

We invented our concept of time.

Do we experience the same concept of time as does, say, a tree?

I think, too, we each have our own sub-concepts of time. Some people who are in their 80s look much younger because they 'feel' that way. I am convinced that their concept of time has slowed down their biological clock.

I don't think we all share the same 'clock' and, thus, don't all share the same concept of time. Much different, too, for other species. Even more different for planets and the universe.
  
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Smile Re: Time Does Not Exist - 02-06-2007, 08:12 AM

Another way to express this false concept of time would be this.
Thoughts
Imagining
Movement
Everywhere=TIME?



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Re: Time Does Not Exist - 02-06-2007, 08:48 AM

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The equivalence principle of time and distance___they are equivalent, are they not...?

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That is how I see it. Distance within space can only be bridged with the passage of time. It takes time for information to overcome this gap, even if it the speed that information travels is that of light.
Which leads me to the assumption that a minimum distance and minimum time in accordance with quantum mechanics is more than a mathematical concept to describe the inabilty of obtaining more information.
The mere fact that all signals exist within minimum (distance) and maximum (speed) tells me the intricate relationship of pixilated space and time.


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Re: Time Does Not Exist - 02-07-2007, 01:05 AM

Thats right. Without time, why does not the velocity of light become infinite??


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That is how I see it. Distance within space can only be bridged with the passage of time. It takes time for information to overcome this gap, even if it the speed that information travels is that of light.
Which leads me to the assumption that a minimum distance and minimum time in accordance with quantum mechanics is more than a mathematical concept to describe the inabilty of obtaining more information.
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Thats right. Without time, why does not the velocity of light become infinite??
Prehaps it is!Do you know for sure?And is light speed constant!What is its slowest speed?
What is its maximum speed?If there really is one!



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Re: Time Does Not Exist - 02-08-2007, 08:26 AM

In fact I believe that because of the concept of time, the velocity of light (normally) is a constant...

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Re: Time Does Not Exist - 02-08-2007, 08:35 AM

Does perception have a "velocity"?

We do not perceive instantaneously, of coure. But what kind of effect would such a delay have on our perception of time?
  
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Does perception have a "velocity"?

We do not perceive instantaneously, of coure. But what kind of effect would such a delay have on our perception of time?
Good question,does perception have a velocity?No!

We have an erroneous perception of an illusion commonly called time,it is (time) to
alter and readjust this misconception.




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Re: Time Does Not Exist - 02-08-2007, 11:46 AM

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Good question,does perception have a velocity?No! We have an erroneous perception of an illusion commonly called time,it is (time) to
alter and readjust this misconception.
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Then the question of if there is anything faster than the speed of light is irrelevant.

Perhaps there is 'the speed of our perception of light', in the kind of way that affects all instruments that have light speed readings.
  
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