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    Re: Would Traversable Wormholes Violate Causality

    Tarina;
    The "brain fart" is most commonly noticed during "brain storms" but a few scientist will let one or two out during media interviews or to give their books a bit more substance; you usually find a lot of bull will follow these ones!
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    Re: Would Traversable Wormholes Violate Causality

    Quote Originally Posted by dleviwing View Post
    Since science only understands how gravity functions relative to mass and not what it IS or what causes it, I would say even claiming knowledge of a black hole under current definition is somewhat questionable. Most galaxies have been observed as having massive cores that we presume to be a gravity well or black hole; no experiment of test has ever conclusively revealed the existence of either black holes or worm holes. Only scientist who wish to see themselves on TV claim such absurd knowledge.
    Scientific understanding currently is that mass warps spacetime which causes the effect we describe as gravity.

    Current understanding is lacking on how mass warps spacetime, but you're at best being disingenuous to suggest that we're so totally clueless about it.

    There are objects which can only be black holes of incredible size at the centers of most every galaxy we've observed, you're demanding a bit much here, as it almost seems like you're insisting on someone actually traveling to an event horizon.

    Though, I guess if you seriously deny Relativity works, you could perhaps argue as you are.

    You wouldn't have anything resembling a scientific basis to start from, but I guess I can't delimit the ability to argue in general.
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    Re: Would Traversable Wormholes Violate Causality

    Max;
    Are you off your meds again?
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    Re: Would Traversable Wormholes Violate Causality

    The only med I take is adderal, but yes I am out for a few days.

    Doesn't have any impact on my point, does it?
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    Question Re: Would Traversable Wormholes Violate Causality

    I see these talks started with the idea of wormholes, but turned and seem to be heading elsewhere.

    With where this has been taken it looks as if there would be a connection to supersymmetry... and of course. From very theoretical disscussions I have had in the past, wormhole creation may need a 'negitive mass' ; of which I am not sure what that means-

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    Re: Would Traversable Wormholes Violate Causality

    Negative energy density.

    This could either mean lower than the background vacuum expectation value, or as I describe it topologically, an inside out knot?

    Given how hard it is to even imagine that, I'm not surprised we don't see wormholes of significant size threading the universe.
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    Re: Would Traversable Wormholes Violate Causality

    .....and quite a few smaller ones too my guess graham
    Max Planck, said that “all matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force which brings the particles of an atom to vibration which holds the atom together. We must assume behind this force is the existence of a conscious and intelligent mind. This mind is the matrix of all matter.

    and ....from an old master ... Ancora impara!

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    Re: Would Traversable Wormholes Violate Causality

    what goes up must come down, the question of what's up remains. Wassup?
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    Re: Would Traversable Wormholes Violate Causality

    far left gamma wave through the all ..
    Max Planck, said that “all matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force which brings the particles of an atom to vibration which holds the atom together. We must assume behind this force is the existence of a conscious and intelligent mind. This mind is the matrix of all matter.

    and ....from an old master ... Ancora impara!


 

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